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Vladimir 25.09.2009 09:44

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 619566)
You are trying to introduce the term "prestige, status, defining it as a negative, as crafts ...

C What did you decide? Not so. For example, commodity consumption is a prestigious Mercedes es-class ", a status car. This odd job? What if I put in a negative sense?
When buyers for dvadtsadku gain, eg, Shutov, it is not in the least a status buy. Shutov, not all home hanging. Or Koshlyakov. Entering the room (who is a bit watching the art of modern-day) is similar realize that hanging on the wall добротная expensive thing, emphasizing the status of the owner. And someone hangs Tselkov and Krasnopevtsev, even more expensive. And someone, Peter Doig, Warhol and Basquiat.

Posav 25.09.2009 10:49

At all times, it was profitable to draw a cabin pastoral or banbonerok. Now only salon has changed. Required and landscapes, pastoral and modernized banbonerki, but so-called art is "liberal" protest now too salon-art galleries, custom.

gans 25.09.2009 12:17

Catherine Tar on "Art-Moscow"
 
Actually, I was not going to pay attention to the Biennale is the "Art-Moscow" - in the end, it is only fair, evidence of trends, rather than their discovery. Against the backdrop of the Venice Film Festival did not go as yet and as soon Video Store.

But I was tempted to VIP-thumbs, has decided to recall vipam about yourself. I put on an adequate occasion red dress, patent leather heels 12 cm and went.

I do not like the market, but I appreciate it. Unlike many fellow critics, I think the private market of unique objects is very important and sometimes life-saving factor, which allows art to remain independent from the mass of taste - but that and the movie and the book, and a theater with very few exceptions to this taste lost. Due to the fact that the gallery may sell only one artist's work per year, rather than a circulation of 20 million, and this will be financially enough - in the art may be much more experimental than anywhere else. So there and leave the most inflexible filmmakers (in the field of experimental video), theater actors (in performance) and directors (in the installation and curatorial project). And I appreciate the dedication of the best of the gallery owners who lead their ship on stormy waters and tidal art market (and in the art market is always the case) and under any circumstances seek primarily to preserve the reputation of the artist. It's all in the ideal.

Well, I think we have just now would be the ideal. "Art-Moscow" this year moved from May to September, and it is not just. The market, as you know, a strong tide, expect to cheer sales are not accounted for, foreign galleries and buyers still can not wait. And then decided to arrange a fair while Biennale, if only to show the foreign critics, journalists, curators, what do we eat well. It was a great commercial hope of the case aside (especially since the company Ekspopark "though not immediately, but still dropped the price per square meter stand) and once in a lifetime to make a more conceptual, more experimental exposure. As it was, for example, last year at Art Basel Miami Beach.

Ha-ha. I hoped in vain.

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The main impression I was. Take a standard I respected gallery XL. It has long been cultivating interesting artists, painters, and her aged zabureli, gallery inevitably slightly bourgeoisified. Giant glossy photo performances Kulik and Monroe; ironic, but still expensive-looking electronic toys group Electroboutique, beautiful objects, Igor Makarevich, or group of ABC and so on. Even last year, all this can be positioned somewhere on the right flank of the center, I would say.

So now the context of fair "Art Moscow" is that with the same labor XL Gallery was at the left flank. The most avant-garde, the most alive almost. I do not know whether to laugh or cry here.

Read full lyrics Around the XL is better not to go. Around scary. Around rampant, as a deadly tumor, glossy gallery "Triumph" (five stands) and others like it. Without thinking we now have two fashion trend. One was before, but now has blossomed especially: huge, pointless, sexually attractive paintings and big photos, which I call for a "blonde". For such a blonde-art opened, for example, a new gallery ART ART, which has just a huge stand. This Partner Project Gallery has teamed up with the gallery Gertsev. The latter is still to be sympathetic to modern art was not seen - the owner, we must pay tribute to his perseverance, has always exhibited a very bad, nobody knows, and somehow part of the Spanish abstract painting. He continues to do so now, although his new partner Vladimir Frolov more versed in the art scene and, of course, knows what to do do not need it. But, obviously, the relationship with Mr. Gertsev are such that he can not at this point.

The second trend is much nastier. Here, the same huge and sexually attractive art has a distinct militaristic, revanchist, imperial, nationalistic tone. This art is not pointless, and it senses something and attract customers, although sometimes at a subconscious level. Works well-calculated seduction.

In the pictures Belyaeva-Gintovt scene from the film "Circus" - a film that translates, albeit in the form of stories, the ideals of democracy, fraternity and equality among peoples - moved to alo-scale gold and aesthetics "of national exclusivity, clearly related to the myth pangermanskim and its mystical overtones. Right beside the product of free time gallerists "Triumph" - "artist" Thanatos Banionis. His inspired hand belongs to the ultra sharp video - energy cocktail of military uniforms, beautiful eye and angel wings. Plus all this in polugoticheskoy-poluikonnoy frame and also with some handles, for which you can pull as a youth video games. That is all done the most tempting for the consumer. Separated from the "Triumph" "Yakut Gallery" shows militarist (and not anti-war, no) sculpture family Rukavishnikov. The hanging cloth near Catherine Rozhkov, with some ziggurat, in this context too, as a mark of imperial glory (we pay tribute to the curatorial talents of Yakutia: he cleverly bent artist, which is unlikely to suspect that makes ultra-right nationalist art.)

In general, as I said, an outstanding artist Alfredo Dzhaar (who, on visiting the "Art-Moscow" depressed), it's all because, after presenting the last award Kandinsky "many you have to understand that it can be."

As I walked around the fair, I was introduced to a kind of collector. He immediately asked me what I think of Belyaev-Gintovt, next to the picture that we just hung. I decided not to stand on ceremony and said that I do not like the fascist style and refuse to take it easy, ironic and "how to" not see the political content, which climbs from all crevices.

Collector nodded politely and said something to me immensely, immensely pleased. He said: "Yes, now many say so."

Oh, if it were true, my dear collectors! But if this is true even for a quarter, I feel in this our merit.

Then we'll talk with collectors of his collection, and here I opened a lot. It turned out he collects the classic 1960, and to contemporary art only eyeing. I allowed myself to give him advice and said that then is more interested in new art scene, look for talented young artists, try to guess which of them has a great future, support them and thus make risky, but very interesting investment of time and money because it is such collectors in the history. He replied that it was all from his point of view, the problem of a dealer, collector of anything so do not be able to and should just buy what he has beautifully hangs over the sofa, and preferably a well-known name.

Interest in contemporary art, so did the man today, has not changed its system of values, not keen on him to innovation, searching, critical assessment of reality and a sense of risk, which is what we call the word modernity. He wants to collect contemporary art, but not the modern way. And that's the tragedy.

Because, looking at the present "Art-Moscow", one realizes that the tragedy in full swing.

Vipov meanwhile no no. A friend drove me home, on the way we stopped for coffee at some very nice and very simple place. Audience in tattered sweaters extremely surprised (see above about the red dress and 12-inch heels). Then I remembered that outside of "Art-Moscow" runs some other life to which "Art-Moscow" does not want to pay any attention to staying in a VIP-fictional world. It became a little easier.

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Seriy 25.09.2009 12:27

cute, but that someone should organize an exhibition of young artists, do not coincide in opinion with the Art-Moscow. Perhaps Ms. Tar and the Ministry of Culture? because private traders do not ponyanet ....

Кирилл Сызранский 25.09.2009 13:07

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 619546)
At the same time that the eye and pleasing, and the price rise.

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I afford to give him advice and said that then is more interested in new art scene, look for talented young artists, try to guess which of them has a great future, support them and thus make risky, but very interesting investment of its time and money, because it is such collectors are known in history.
The definition of risk, but interesting "advice Ye Tar. : D

Konstantin 25.09.2009 13:45

I did not like interviews. About how.
In every line of snobbery. The fact that the exhibition without the scandals - is yes (I also wrote that little erotic)

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without thinking we now have two fashion trend. One was before, but now has blossomed especially: huge, pointless, sexually attractive paintings and big photos, which I call for a "blonde". For a blonde-art opened, for example, a new gallery ART ART, which has just a huge stand.
This is about the fact that there is at Art Moscow (and this is not) or in general?
I did not notice that half of what she wrote. "Militarism" continuous ... can greatly sought.
This parallel in CHA is the Fair pictures the trial of Khodorkovsky. Now lay out. I wonder what feelings will cause these pictures.

Кирилл Сызранский 25.09.2009 14:06

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 620166)
In every line of snobbery. The fact that the exhibition without the scandals - is yes (I also wrote that little erotic)

I at the exhibition was not, for me to judge about it and compare the impressions?
But in light of the issues at the seminar, its board may consider, it gives interesting advice just for the discussion. You can not reply to a question

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 618716)
I tell them 100%of the risk - to invest in modern, so even our own, they told me and who I advise to ask, all the rest only vtyuhivayut, and you objectively tell.
Interested in modern artists of the age, I determine for itself, up to 50 years. And the prices at which up to 10 000 $. And for those that exceed 10 000 $, the main question for so many, and whether to grow further.

simple list of names.
Discuss, even with examples, with figures, with specific things, but to discuss, so I think the task.
No? Not?

Konstantin 25.09.2009 14:13

Yes of course.
- Writing a review of the first names with the prices and criticism
- Overview of young interesting prices and criticism
And somehow it's better to give advice.

In an interview Tar I did not like that's advice includes:
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look for talented young artists, try to guess which of them has a great future
What is dark? Well naming names.
I kind of advice I lent:
- Must be healthy and wealthy.
- We must fight corruption
- We need to develop ...
Obviously yes? Are you specifically tell me what to do.

Кирилл Сызранский 25.09.2009 14:18

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 620236)
Do you specifically tell me what to do.

Here on this issue and will respond to the seminar. Organizers.
But not Catherine Tar. : D

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 618716)
O-ho-ho! Imagine what a responsibility.

Imagine imagine ...
: eek:

Allena 25.09.2009 14:26

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 620266)
I represent, I represent ...

You are Good! (From): D


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