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Тютчев 07.04.2009 22:55

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 307246)
Dear Tjutchev, about poetry is clear about Pushkin, too, but so far there is no argument that this is not the work of Konstantin Somov.

        About the poetry - it is just the most important argument. But if you want, I can give an argument, however, in my opinion, significant. The whole argument in favor of the authenticity of this thing is built on what is depicted is Somov. But if you look closely, it is obvious that the lower lip man depicted in "Self-Portrait" absolutely not the same as for unconditional self-portrait (KA Somov). Konstantin Andreevich lips big (thick), protruding forward. The proposed on the portrait of his lips were compressed, narrow. I do not think that age could occur such strong changes. Typically features of mature age take even a few cartoon form, ie if the lips were vypyacheny, then to old age, they stuck out even more.

K-Maler 08.04.2009 03:20

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Сообщение от Jan (Сообщение 307056)
If it was the desire to write a fake, then why the forger did not show a minimum of creativity or, at least, meticulous craftsmen to the manner, compositions, etc., to bring its work to somovskoy? And in general - whether forged Somov painting during his lifetime and in the first decade after his death?

That is a very correct observation. In the second picture even more clear that pohozh.I lips are read not narrow ... Somov thought that not enough is able to paint portraits and trained at some of the familiar and "myself" by pastel, chtby not write everything from nature, believed that it was "painful" for him and for nature. He attached great importance to registered portraits and discussed it in his letters. If he wrote Brankevicha this would have been aware of the correspondence. And the figure shows that Brankevich slightly bulky, type a more complete person. The portrait of the same pose with the tilt forward and tense, as it should be when it is necessary to draw a ... On the reverse side is not clear, perhaps someone wanted to put a name such as "Portrait of an old man," and he said that's impossible ...

Дилетант 23.10.2012 14:19

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Again - " Looking through the old pages ."
Slight cold and bloody curiosity brought me back to the archive jungle. And I came across these wilds for discussion " Luba last self-portrait ."
As proof of their own assumptions are true masters of self-portraits , all evaluated and compared : the shape of the nose, shape of the face , lips ...
People! A guy on the discussed portrait - egghead and BALD !
 A Somov to end kept his good and noble gray hair . Until the last is to admire. Clever. I am a geek . Esthete.
And the portrait discussed - accountant Votruba . Modestly dressed, not artistic, not charismatic. Good honest accountant. In poorly sewn costume and slurred tie.
Well, about such trifles :), as the level of execution of the portrait , even not want to talk .
But why should I have to write about it ? " Cinema is already - was over ." :)

Борис Кон 23.10.2012 18:30

Accountant Votruba - congenial.

70 unforgettable.

zarajara 23.10.2012 18:56

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Сообщение от Amateur , 2307011
Again - " Looking through the old pages ."
Slight cold and bloody curiosity brought me back to the archive jungle. And I came across these wilds for discussion " Luba last self-portrait ."
As proof of their own assumptions are true masters of self-portraits , all evaluated and compared : the shape of the nose, shape of the face , lips ...
People! A guy on the discussed portrait - egghead and BALD !
 A Somov to end kept his good and noble gray hair . Until the last is to admire. Clever. I am a geek . Esthete.
And the portrait discussed - accountant Votruba . Modestly dressed, not artistic, not charismatic. Good honest accountant. In poorly sewn costume and slurred tie.
Well, about such trifles :), as the level of execution of the portrait , even not want to talk .
But why should I have to write about it ? " Cinema is already - was over ." :)

I rather reminded Institutskaya statement . Literate portrait, but only just.
Indeed : the mouth can become narrower, and the nose - a sharper, but the shape of the skull does not change.
Verey GS Portrait of Konstantin Somov

молевич 23.10.2012 21:15

Look at the canvas, he's white.

Yellow cloth, in shedding paint can clearly see that the new canvas.

Frunze 24.10.2012 00:32

KGS
 
Typical of the Soviet school of painting.
What kind of question .... Somov unclear.

Дилетант 24.10.2012 09:09

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Сообщение от Frunze (Сообщение 2307441)
typical of the Soviet school of painting.
What kind of question .... Somov unclear.

The fact about himself.
About Konstantin, God rest his soul.

It is fair to note that this is not "is", and "was." a few years ago.
Just before I realize how to giraffe :).

Frunze 24.10.2012 23:43

KGS
 
That's just Constantine A. I do not see .....
:)


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