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annagavr 03.02.2014 11:39

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Сообщение от acetate (Сообщение 2973641)
You read my mind straight , I just wanted to call his Uzbek vanguard . If on a territorial basis , and according to your logic , then yes, if on a national basis , it is not . None of Uzbeks working in the style of avant-garde, I do not know even Ural Tansykbaev - Kazakh. And indeed this painting became known as the vanguard only now, all over the world such artists called modernists .

That's it. Modernists .
And the avant-garde - it self . So ?

Маруся 03.02.2014 12:06

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Сообщение от annagavr (Сообщение 2973651)
And the avant-garde - it self.
So?


Well if so, then "British scientists" - just kids in a sandbox compared to modern Russian art historian

annagavr 03.02.2014 12:10

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 2973701)
Well, if so, then "British scientists" - just kids in a sandbox compared to modern Russian art historian

And what is "British scientists"?
Uncertain denotation?
Or is there a list of surnames?

Маруся 03.02.2014 12:25

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Сообщение от annagavr (Сообщение 2973721)
And what is "British scientists"?
Uncertain denotation?


Well, why is quite a definite "denotation" name that makes all the latest discoveries on the Internet

annagavr 03.02.2014 12:42

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 2973731)
Well, why is quite a definite " denotation " name that makes all the latest discoveries on the internet

By the way, " Kazan vanguard" for the role "of the term " does not apply. Simply tab . Earlier there were just the vanguard and now " Kazan" . But originally from Russia . Names of artists in doubt, do not leave .

Маруся 03.02.2014 14:37

But what is this?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2972821"
Edition marks the first time a research and amateur new term - "Kazan Vanguard 1920 "

You can just speculate here without reading the theoretical justifications Ms. Ulemnovoy :

" Interesting layer of Tatarstan art that reflects the search for a new artistic language that conforms to the changing conditions of life, aspirations cocky young artists Kazan late 1910s - 1930s , formed first in the Kazan Art School , and then built on its base of Kazan free public art workshops.
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For short term hardship Kazan artists was established enough to talk about Kazan forefront , as an integral phenomenon with its own specific features due to mutual influence and complex synthesis of Russian and European avant-garde forms , enriched Tatar national traditions. If the concept of " Russian Avant-Garde" is now known to all and involves a well-defined , has become traditional , a set of names and symbols , the Kazan Art 1910 - 1930 , presented at the exhibition demonstrates that the limits of its much wider outlined Moscow and St. Petersburg . "

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=230401

A significant article so that was published not only in the forum, but also on the site Art Investment

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Сообщение от Маруся;2916691"


annagavr 03.02.2014 14:48

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 2973921)
Well, what about this :



You can just speculate here without reading the theoretical justifications Ms. Ulemnovoy :

" Interesting layer of Tatarstan art that reflects the search for a new artistic language that conforms to the changing conditions of life, aspirations cocky young artists Kazan late 1910s - 1930s , formed first in the Kazan Art School , and then built on its base of Kazan free public art workshops.
...
For short term hardship Kazan artists was established enough to talk about Kazan forefront , as an integral phenomenon with its own specific features due to mutual influence and complex synthesis of Russian and European avant-garde forms , enriched Tatar national traditions. If the concept of " Russian Avant-Garde" is now known to all and involves a well-defined , has become traditional , a set of names and symbols , the Kazan Art 1910 - 1930 , presented at the exhibition demonstrates that the limits of its much wider outlined Moscow and St. Petersburg . "

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=230401

A significant article so that was published not only in the forum, but also on the site Art Investment

See no sedition ...

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synthesis of Russian and European avant-garde forms , enriched Tatar national traditions
Synthesis of derivative .

But the process was going and active process .

Кирилл Сызранский 03.02.2014 15:10

The term " Kazan vanguard " and there is , of course, one can argue about its legitimacy , but it is already entered in the scientific revolution , and at the level of art lovers and it is used all the controversy about this term late, as they say, " Pozdnyak rush ", as it is too late to talk about the incompetence of the term " Russian impressionism" or even , God forgive me , " the Soviet impressionism" . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Or let's first thousand never talk about the term " Soviet champagne " or " Armenian cognac ." <! - ~ 12 ~ ->

annagavr 03.02.2014 15:20

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2973991)
but he was also introduced in the scientific revolution

Show where?

Allena 03.02.2014 15:27

In my opinion , it's not scary. "Kazan ", " Turkestan ", " Ukrainian " ... Fun to watch , learn, as young , very young people in places more or less remote from art centers looking for its new . Importantly, they were looking for and that they then it's interesting to us today . Were they innovators ? Certainly. A geographic definitions underscore local color ( in the best sense of the word) . Is not fun to just watch and learn , and enjoy ?


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