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- - 30-50 thousand, help advice (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=201652)

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2586041)

(except for the "name" of course).

Totally agree!

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Сообщение от artcol; 2585971 "Can ... the artist in the limit of 30,000-50,000 rubles ... consider ... investment? " Personally, I share [B

collection[/B], as a cultural leisure, and investment, as a way to multiply money .

Not mozhno.a nuzhno.Pravilno selected works ( and authors ) _ 1-2 and so on. thousand dol.gorazdo reliable and vygryshney.chem illiquid for tens or hundreds of thousands.
And very often, and for its artistic merit order of magnitude higher .
Of course the rule of " free cheese only in a mousetrap " extends to the thousands and hundreds of thousands of dol.eto can not forget

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Сообщение от mihailovoh (Сообщение 2586191)

Do not mozhno.a nuzhno.Pravilno selected works ( and authors ) _ 1-2 and so on. thousand dol.gorazdo reliable and vygryshney.chem illiquid for tens or hundreds of thousands.
And very often, and for its artistic merit order of magnitude higher .
Of course the rule of " free cheese only in a mousetrap " extends to the thousands and hundreds of thousands of dol.eto not forget

In the secondary market is very difficult to buy a good thing for the money .

1-2 thousand dollars as an investment - can only print in Dali, The Investment nothing more-liquid I think I can not.

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2586231)

In the secondary market is very difficult to buy a good thing for the money .

Slozhno.no vozmozhno.S investment is always slozhno.bud aktsii.zhivopis or ... Having no knowledge . instinct will always be in poigryshe.Imenno on this and advised modern art ( there is still a lot of not valued by contemporaries ) .

And yet the investment can probably start with the amount of about $ 10 thousand anything below it is not so
Just think - if you buy Gazprom shares at 500 or 1 thousand rubles (it can be done on the stock exchange ), it is an investment or idiocy ? ?
Here, too, if you buy 30 thousand rubles, chances are that it will grow by 5-10 times over a short time interval are minor, of course, if we are talking about a period of 20 years, then it is another matter.
There is still necessary to consider not only the amount spent , but also the time that you are willing to wait

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Сообщение от mihailovoh (Сообщение 2586691)

Slozhno.no vozmozhno.S investment is always slozhno.bud aktsii.zhivopis or ... Having no knowledge . instinct will always be in poigryshe . It is for this and advised modern art ( there is still not much valued by contemporaries ).

The price of entry to the market and the cost of failure will be different
if you buy a lot of money and it would be a fake , and then burned the money .
A -shares something can and will (unless you buy bankrupt )
and real estate in general is the class

Sergey11,
Here's estate . today is not soglasen.5 -7 per cent per annum , ideally .
Buying Gazprom but mp 30-50 in mesyats.samaya smart investment ( an increase 5-10 times not skazhu.a 3 times in 3-5 years is likely .) And the dividends of 5 percent guaranteed.
Putting test purchases at 10 million rubles, etc. or for modern art - eto.chto show his toughness ? Or authors are working for the 1 2td.eto without investment attractiveness ?
The topic was called names like hudozhnikov.chto and called the sum of 1-2 td.vpolne adequate .

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Сообщение от Sergey11; 2586711 "

Here, too, if you buy 30 thousand rubles, chances are that it will grow by 5-10 times over a short time period are negligible

If you are on time and Chukhnov " fall to the tail " - to gain time before his promotion of the artist work, you do not even at the peak of interest in him will be able to sell 10 times more expensive options such pretty often ( bought for five thousand - sold for 50 or bought for 20 - sold for 200 thousand), many dealers in this live , constantly scrolling through a whole lot of such works .

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Сообщение от Sergey11; 2586711 "

if you buy a lot of money and it would be a forgery and money were burned .

" The picture for big money " has already sold the papers , if you have any other conclusion would like to get a new owner and in the course of their show up a fake, with old papers and sell or purchase price , or even a shiver .
Do not burn money , do not forget about the law " cycle of crap on the market ". <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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Сообщение от mihailovoh (Сообщение 2586731)

Putting test purchases at 10 million rubles, etc. or for modern art - eto.chto show his toughness ?

In the original, like this:

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the sum of a million (maybe , is not a single thing - then reduced transaction and other costs )

In principle , the matter comes down not to the " sum " of course . However, the " sum" of minimizing the costs and risks.

The more given to it - the more you earn plus diversifying the possible for large amounts.

You can put 1,000 rubles and profitability earn 1000%9000 . This of course will be pleased , but the money in your wallet a little added here . It's on the fingers if it is explained .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2586741)

If you are on time and Chukhnov " fall to the tail " - to gain time before his promotion of the artist work, you do not even at the peak of interest in him will be able to sell 10 times more expensive options such time and again (bought for 5 thousand - sold for 50 or bought for 20 - sold for 200 thousand), many dealers in this live, constantly scrolling through a whole lot of such works.

Cyril again, we're talking about the dealers and not for beginners
and Gazprom and grandmother can buy without a thorough study of the market

But people who earn their securities and investments in several orders of magnitude greater than the mes who earn only on Art.

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Сообщение от mihailovoh (Сообщение 2586731)

Sergey11,
Here's estate. today is not soglasen.5-7 per cent per annum, ideally.
Buying Gazprom but mp 30-50 in mesyats.samaya smart investment (an increase 5-10 times not skazhu.a 3 times in 3-5 years is likely.) And the dividends of 5 percent guaranteed.
Putting test purchases at 10 million rubles, etc. or for modern art-eto.chto show his toughness? Or authors are working for the 1 2td.eto without investment attractiveness?
The topic was named names and called hudozhnikov.chto like 1-2 td.vpolne adequate amounts.

So far in the last 5 years, Gazprom has fallen from 360 to 125 rubles at the moment and the chance to grow by 3-5 times over the next 5 years are close to 0 (shale revolution and dibilno Invest program of the company)
rather Bilibin will cost 1 million for watercolor

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2586741)

If you are on time and Chukhnov " fall to the tail " - to gain time before his promotion of the artist work, you do not even at the peak of interest to be able to sell it at 10 times the price of such options and large (bought for five thousand - sold for 50 or bought for 20 - sold for 200 thousand), many dealers in this live, constantly scrolling through a whole lot of such works.

Cyril again, we're talking about the dealers and not for beginners
and Gazprom and grandmother can buy without a thorough study of the market

But people who earn their securities and investments in several orders of magnitude greater than the mes who earn only on Art.

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So far in the last 5 years, Gazprom has fallen from 360 to 125 rubles at the moment and the chance to grow by 3-5 times over the next 5 years are close to 0 (shale revolution and dibilno Invest program of the company)
rather Bilibin will cost 1 million for watercolor

and about 5%in real estate is you certainly unfortunate invistitsiyu show
On nedvizhki not living an average of 15%and for any amount of 1,000,000 rubles to $ 1 billion