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Кирилл Сызранский 16.11.2012 10:18

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2342831)
after a certain threshold of the 20 million that 100 million the amount equally outrageous.

For me, for example, the amount and at one million dollars exorbitant.
:D>

Konstantin 16.11.2012 10:35

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2342861)
For me, for example, the amount and at one million dollars prohibitive.

I hope all the same until.

Лен-Гор 16.11.2012 10:39

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2342261"
Yeah , except that the world did not know him then and still does not know

It is not the correct statement.
It is the exhibition of Socialist Realism arouse great interest in the West.
In the last five years, we have conducted a large-scale exhibition of the Tretyakov Gallery , GIMom , RosIZO in Europe. Attendance rolls over.
Italians are so simple "attack" with offers of repeating last year's exhibition of Socialist Realism in Italy.
Germany "request" to include such an exhibition in the plan for the year 2013-2014 . , About China, I not even talking - their only Lenin on canvases and interests.
So , the rumors of the "death" of socialist realism exaggerated ;)>

Konstantin 16.11.2012 10:43

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Сообщение от Len-Gore, 2342911
So, the rumors of the "death" of socialist realism greatly exaggerated

Why, then, this area is not at Western auctions?

Кирилл Сызранский 16.11.2012 10:48

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Сообщение от Len-Gore, 2342911
This is the exhibition of Socialist Realism arouse great interest in the West.

That speech brodatyh women caused great interest of the audience of the circus, and the most viewed websites, they say, is pornography.
:D>

So what?

artcol 16.11.2012 10:56

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev (Сообщение 2342661)
Of course.

Because modernism - totally immoral thing.

As Brodsky (Isaac) too.


And it's the only thing they have in common.

This may be true.
But as the style of socialist realism is dead, and the criteria of morality we especially do not add anything to the understanding of social realism as noumenon.

Grigory 16.11.2012 10:59

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2342931)
He died a long time.

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2342951)
But as the style of socialist realism is dead

Well, at least in this you agree with each other!
:)>

Кирилл Сызранский 16.11.2012 11:01

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Сообщение от Grigory (Сообщение 2342981)
Well, at least in this you agree with each other!
:)>


Young people listen to elders, it is good.
:)>

artcol 16.11.2012 11:02

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2342921)
Why, then, this area is not at Western auctions?

And why Gregory topic moved to "art direction"?

So this will be the answer to your question.

Actually, I have a subject came up a large full-time and part-time discussions with the say so of the Saratov unofficial art of the Soviet period (yes, there are such). In the end, you come to the conclusion that it was not relevant to the artistic and historical aspect loses value over time. The bottom line still remains ...

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Сообщение от Grigory (Сообщение 2342981)
Well, at least in this you agree with each other! :)>

So it is a medical fact, what is there to argue?

Realism please read in quotes, not to dwell on the question of terms.

And one more remark:
I would like to discuss the issue as well and in the future, ie not in terms of how that is now worth, and how much you can earn is hanging on the wall of the client , but in general. In short, an interesting discussion on the merits, because it comes across an interesting material for the second wish is to give the most notorious of those five, etc., but that is the point to keep? Something like that.

Самвел 16.11.2012 23:25

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 2342261"
socialist state podderzhivlo and containing exclusively "the art of socialist realism".

It's thought that this is so, but in reality it was far tak.Ya just met with the artist of that generation, they were different people. For all that, she had a son committed suicide. First in a psychiatric hospital and then, as so often happened with the free people especially in those vremena.U she had reason to dislike the state. From the point of view of life as an artist, she was very happy with the living conditions of these artists. These constant trips, meetings with different cultures, something new each time, as if there is no state, it does not stop them, they lived their separate from the state, the artist's life. They were often at odds, to defend their position, color Somebody, somebody perspective, someone with his love, and some sadness. These were whole teams of artists from different directions.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 2342261"
Yeah, except that the world did not know him then and still does not know and, I think, never know, with the exception, perhaps, meager number of specialists - art historians and the same number lovers.

But it took only 30 years and if there is even a shred of experts and fans, this is great progress.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 2342261"
you about the art of the twentieth century, judging by antique shops in the CHA, which is held in Moscow twice a year?

Yes, and the antique shops too.


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