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Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2012 16:59

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Сообщение от impression; 2158071 '
Your example is interesting , but it is an afterthought
In hindsight,

What is an " afterthought "?

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Сообщение от impression; 2158071"
350%over 3 years is much more interesting ,

Ha-ha , in my opinion , more interesting figures of profit and not some kind of %%.
%%Do not smear on the bread and even what's the use of these "350 %" when, in absolute terms, there is a ridiculous profit .

impression 05.07.2012 21:55

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158121)
What is a " retroactive "?


Ha-ha , in my opinion , more interesting figures of profit and not some kind of %%.
%%Do not smear on the bread and even what's the use of these "350 %" when, in absolute terms, there is a ridiculous profit .
What you need to buy these coins and then sell them to get decent money ?

Where we sirym and miserable <! - ~ 12 ~ ->
For me and 300t . $ Money, and you refuse ,
we are on opposite poles of each other and do not understand <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 05.07.2012 22:24

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Сообщение от impression (Сообщение 2160101)
For me and 300t. $ Money while you trash

For me, no money is rubbish, so at least three rubles.

mihailovoh 06.07.2012 07:06

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Сообщение от impression; 2158071"
" The History of " really rose from 300 (2009 year) to 1.05 million rubles, despite the fact that you can not buy it theoretically and practically in quantity.
350%for 3 years is much more interesting

 A deposit of 11 percent to RUB 05.05 USD prots.zoloto yasno.Otdelnye and so (as mentioned above, Tron ), a lover of rare coins in the market - tsene.tem more modern coins.
 If you are an expert. Any oblasti.dohod will be approximately equal to (painting is not isklyuchenie.tolko still warms the soul ).
 The ratio of net income (costs and risks are different everywhere ) to the business value of=18 percent godovyh.Poverte is not very small.

Elek 13.09.2012 19:52

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2157481 "
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Painting Spanish surrealist Joan Miro "Painting (Blue Star) " in 1927 was sold for $ 36 million

Interestingly, the " Blue Star" was bought by a man , put a picture up for auction at Sotheby `s in 2007 for $ 16 million over five years, the price has increased almost three-fold .

36,000,000 /16,000,000=2.25 times ( Miro)
1732/650 = 2.66 times (spot, troy ounce , gold 2007-2012)
What question? The trend is one and the money " flowing" out of the system , too.

When purchasing is important to realize that gold and silver as a rule can buy below the market value of the metal itself. Numismatic delicacies , antiques , paintings - easy! Fixed " cost" they have.

At the sale should be considered the highest liquidity of gold at an understandable price, which may be important in the acute phase of the crisis .

And the main thing : gold is money - everything else - at best a product. :)

artcol 13.09.2012 20:40

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Сообщение от Elek (Сообщение 2257421)
36,000,000 /16,000,000 = 2.25 times ( Miro)
1732/650 = 2.66 times (spot, troy ounce , gold 2007-2012)
What question? The trend is one and the money " flowing" out of the system , too.

When purchasing is important to realize that gold and silver as a rule can buy below the market value of the metal itself. Numismatic delicacies , antiques , paintings - easy! Fixed " cost" they have.

At the sale should be considered the highest liquidity of gold at an understandable price, which may be important in the acute phase of the crisis .

And the main thing : gold is money - everything else - at best a product. :)

Subject to investment in art initially very doubtful. There were discussions on the forum on this topic. You can invest in assets and liabilities - that's from a bad life.

Elek 13.09.2012 21:04

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2257481)
Theme art investment initially very doubtful. There were discussions on the forum on this topic. You can invest in assets and liabilities - that's from a bad life .

And you are looking for good ? :) :) :)

Plant , bringing losses - is an asset ? A aktsiii Face -books ? I think that the art "in general " - about the same investment.
However , in art is possible to minimize risk by diversifying literate . IMHO.

artcol 13.09.2012 21:24

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Сообщение от Elek (Сообщение 2257511)
Do you still hope for good ? :) :) :)

Plant , bringing losses - is an asset ? A aktsiii Face -books ? I think that the art "in general " - about the same investment.
However , in art is possible to minimize risk by diversifying literate . IMHO .

Plant - yes , the asset . And his loss - is another matter.

Risks - is another.

Elek 13.09.2012 21:38

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2257541)
factory - yes, an asset.
And his loss - is another matter.


Risks - is another.


Assets and liabilities not distinguish - "financial colorblindness."
:).
Distinguish the same two concepts: the profit (or loss) and low risk (or risk).

artcol 13.09.2012 21:41

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Сообщение от Elek (Сообщение 2257601)
assets and liabilities do not distinguish

The picture can not produce ext.
value.


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