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Meister 02.07.2008 17:27

Erofeev truth had five reprimands, but this man has really done a lot for the Tretyakov Gallery, brought together a decent establishment of modern art, so his dismissal is a serious loss to the Tretyakov Gallery. And most of all I was upset that it's all in the early arrival Avdeev, who seemingly does not interfere ...

maxmyd 04.07.2008 08:48

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 13906)
Erofeev truth had five reprimands, but this man has really done a lot for the Tretyakov Gallery, brought together a decent establishment of modern art, so his dismissal is a serious loss to the Tretyakov Gallery. And most of all I was upset that it's all in the early arrival Avdeev, who seemingly did not interfere with ...

What did he do?? Poil kids vodka and moonshine? He hung on the wall collage naked Putin, Bush and Benladen in one bed lying? And as you Pictures of several villains with his pants down on the background of the sooty White House? Controversial exhibition типо Pts popular ....? Yes duto everything! I've seen students who are in urns dug, looking for the used tickets, because of the cult of Min, and specifically from Shvyd'ko received raporyazhenie oblige students to visit the exhibition! The queue is in the museum. Erofeev right here, against the background of a photograph line-here I am a hot!! And turn it on Prisoners of beauty! Have you ever seen nibut Deputy Director of the State Tretyakov Gallery with pitchforks? Many have lost it these forks from his hiding construction, and then how he brought them here with a garbage in the halls of the exhibition, and next to put the two tanks, one with another with vodka and wine glasses on the table instructed.

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 13786)
z.y. add from myself that I have no doubt that Erofeev had 5 of warning and conflict was sometimes out of nowhere. But they could wait until the end of the court. Protect him there and then fired.

Yes, put a single one, as written above for 15 days and shtrafanuli good! Here at our "favorite" the Communists on the fence painted the word of three letters and received his due, but here the Tretyakov Gallery, under the signature exhibit "---- smotrish fool! Kubikov not seen? "He's Museum and the Tretyakov Gallery Tsaritsene dirtied with her blue noses trying!

Сергеич 04.07.2008 09:33

I say carefully, to avoid being branded as reactionary.
I've also heard that fired for what a bad employee, but the noise of the pressure on good people - is a literate PR with his hand.
And who else is true though half a year ago, he knew this name? And now - everything.
On the other hand - is a criminal case, but it is not a joke.
A criminal case may be, and PR?

LCR 04.07.2008 11:59

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Сообщение от Sergeyitch (Сообщение 14336)
And who else is true though half a year ago, he knew this name? And now - everything.

Dear Sergeyitch

This name is very well knew perfectly all the modern artists of Russia since the early 90's. - In these years of monstrous devastation Erofeev was the only one interested in them and collecting their work. I think that if he is not, a large number of these works simply do not have survived. All these works have been collected at the Museum of Tsarina, and later, when Andrew came to work in the Department of the newest trends in the Tretyakov Gallery, were handed over to the Tretyakov Gallery.

Meister 04.07.2008 12:23

maxmyd, all of modern art in the Tretyakov collected by Erofeev. Under his command the Tretyakov Gallery in the gift was handed over 800 works of contemporary artists. Yes, some sort of a part of this collection ooooochen controversial, but most of it is smotrebelna (call it what))). You should not have leapt to Erofeev, simply start with an analysis of contemporary art.

Сергеич 04.07.2008 13:13

I did and say "cautiously", not arguing. But agree, is any case against a tycoon or immediately interpreted as a hit a democracy.

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The Director of the Museum and community center named after Andrei Sakharov, Yuri Samodurov and department head of the latest trends in modern art of the State Tretyakov Gallery Andrei Erofeev found the accused "of inciting religious hatred towards Christians and the Orthodox in particular." This article 282 (part 2) of the Criminal Code.
This is nonsense of course, they're not in church and not near the "stoked." So I imagine the Orthodox, who slipped to these eyes, and were offended.
Behind Erofeeva I am calm, if not sent to prison - instantly find work. Galleries already trading probably, as for Arshavin (footballer).

LCR 04.07.2008 21:42

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Сообщение от Sergeyitch (Сообщение 14466)
Behind Erofeeva I am calm, if not sent to prison - instantly find work. Galleries already trading probably, as for Arshavin (footballer).

The fact that Andrei Erofeev find a job, no doubt, and the glory of God.
But the point is that as far as I know him, for it was important to work in the public museum, that is to gather a collection for the whole Russia's society - it's embarrassing to write such big words, but how to say it another way, I do not know.
Some people, you know, that's Bazhanov the same, they both could gather quite a remarkable personal collection, the artists gave them a lot, and they all passed into museum collections, Andrew - in the Tsarina, and then to the State Tretyakov Gallery, and Lenya - in the NCCA (his wife threatened to file a lawsuit against him for squandering the family property:))
Such people - previously they were called bessrebrennikami, now - do not know, maybe stupid - very little, and I think they deserve great respect.

Vladimir 04.07.2008 21:58

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 14566)
artists gave them a lot, and they all passed into museum collections, Andrew - in Tsaritsino

Not know. Thank you. Indeed not common in our time step.

Vladimir 05.07.2008 18:29

Tretyakovka about the dismissal Erofeev
 
"Kommersant" an interesting account of a press conference at which the Tretyakov told me about the dismissal Erofeev. Very informative: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=909390

This is a quotation from the "merchant":

Another important question: Is it possible it was in when the curator, is charged in the case of the exhibition "Forbidden Art", to postpone his dismissal - if not out of solidarity with the art community, embarked on the side of the curator, so just out of decency. Surprisingly, it turns out, in the Tretyakov did not know that Andrei Erofeev defendant, although it is extremely loud. Even more surprisingly, in their ignorance confessed deputy director of the State Tretyakov Gallery PR Marina Elzesser, which, she said, believed that Andrei Erofeev involved in the case as a witness. Apparently, public relations, at least with the art, the Tretyakov Gallery is very limited.

but the final article (quote):
At the round table said that disband of the newest trends are not going. But who will lead it - is unknown. "Have any of you go there now will not go!" - In the hearts of the audience left at the round table experts on contemporary art, Mrs. Lebedeva. What indicates that the leadership of the museum at least aware of what the museum has developed a reputation in the professional community.

Looking the part
What was it like? Creative people, gushing ideas, need help, surround them with care and certainly remove administrative routine. Otherwise will be organizational "doorsteps", it's so clear. So from the looks like ostustvie desire to resolve this conflict. Otherwise, would enhance the management, would be removed from the person a headache and would engage in the intellectual part.

LCR 05.07.2008 19:04

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Manual picture painted by the crowd all administrative transgressions of his former subordinate, hit the audience the endless details of museums, which, in their opinion, absolutely not cope Andrei Erofeev. Incriminated him that the department meeting time was not put on record, as well as conflicts with the artists, demanding his belongings from the museum collection on the grounds that they were not properly presented to the museum.
Well, time went so booze )))))))))))

Here I'll give 2 examples from my personal biography.

Preamble: The system works by storing the State Tretyakov Gallery of Modern Art, as far as I understood from the explanations of the staff consists of two completely noncommunicating vessels: one - it works, purchased or received as a gift to itself the State Tretyakov Gallery, and another - all that has brought a dowry of Andrei Erofeev.

Now the actual facts:

1. Not so long ago I was telephoned from Moscow, my friend. "You're mad, why have you taken away Yerofeeva work your husband?? Now he will be in big trouble, because he gave you work, not having the right to do and not filling out any documents! It took all my eloquence, that I recovered from stunned, convinced her that no work, I certainly did not pick up. Determined to find out the origin of such wonderful information, I called Andrew, who just do not know about it. Channel it has remained unidentified, but it can be concluded that "gross professional error Erofeev," which refers to the administration of GTG, were carefully prepared. That's right, but it's not all.

2. About a year ago I received a call from the State Tretyakov Gallery, and asked me if I had any documents evidencing the sale or donation to one of my husband's work, which is in the State Tretyakov Gallery and hung in the exhibition. They were absolutely necessary to have an acknowledged, as in this work they have absolutely no market. What's interesting: this depends on the container, nothing to do with not having Erofeev, so it seems, in the kingdom is not a crazy Danish prince.

As for work without ksivy, we have with them will still be talking about it. I understand: if they have no papers, hence, it is not them, but if it is not them, then it is mine, right? :)


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