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Мира 13.09.2011 20:36

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1770603)
And send to Russia, " a piece of canvas and paint ?"
Yes, you look at yourself , can make sense to ask such a question to the experts , technologists are in place, you are there museums and some specialists Pobol .

I'm not sure whether Americans know the characteristics of the Russian colors in different time periods .

Кирилл Сызранский 13.09.2011 20:39

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Сообщение от World (Сообщение 1770623)
I'm not sure whether Americans know the characteristics of the Russian colors in different time periods?

Pigments one and same everywhere, "from bison to Barbizon."

There's an easy task, not a question for the specialist.

Михалыч 13.09.2011 20:57

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Сообщение от World (Сообщение 1770063)

She looked again at the picture in the upper right corner something is painted, suddenly, a signature?

In my vzlyad there are well looked through the absence of the paint layer.
Or slough, or not spelled out.

K-Maler 13.09.2011 23:51

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Сообщение от Santa (Сообщение 1770053)
Mezdra - a layer of subcutaneous fat on unmanufactured skin, clothing.


Since gelatin, especially the food (it is clean), it is extracted by a similar colloid (glue).

Кирилл Сызранский 13.09.2011 23:57

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 1771003)
So, gelatin, especially the food (it is clean), it is extracted by a similar colloid (glue).

Just as a carpenter, incidentally.
:)>

Игорь Гурьев 14.09.2011 00:03

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Сообщение от World (Сообщение 1770583)
And the canvas cut crooked.

Some bare patches , seems to have been tinted with green paint .

I say that this fragment .
But it's not Petrov-Vodkin.
Perhaps the student who , in a short time to teach the CPV, went to America and they wrote something in his style.

About among other things.
The young lady like lady figure with CPV , " Dinner " (or " Dinner" , I do not remember , painted black and white , like mascara, look for tomorrow when Comrade . Syzransky not overtake ).
In the region of 1915-1923 .

Мира 14.09.2011 07:55

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor (Сообщение 1771043)
Perhaps the student who , in a short time to teach the CPV, went to America and they wrote something in his style.

With this assumption does not agree and here's why:

1. Canvas was cut and twisted so violently with the paintings come with further transportation under "adverse circumstances". And, obviously twisted face-down , judging by the condition of the paint layer can be seen in what order the twisted , the main losses in the upper part of the picture , much less in the middle and almost nonexistent at the bottom.

2. Well the main reason - in America to write a Russian painting physiologically impossible . Other atmospheric pressure , sharp edges everywhere , black and gray background , the constant hum of the city, increased anxiety .
 And it is quiet , quiet and very intimate .

Кирилл Сызранский 14.09.2011 13:27

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Сообщение от World (Сообщение 1771243)
Another atmospheric pressure, sharp edges everywhere, black and gray background, the constant hum of the city, increased anxiety.

And if you leave, for example, in rural areas of Maine or in Vermont?

Мира 14.09.2011 18:37

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1771573)
And if you leave, for example , in rural areas of Maine or in Vermont ? :)>

Imagine , Cyril, granite boulders everywhere get out from under the ground , paportnik , severe nature . Here silence and another prehistoric . It seems , from the rock will come out dinazavr .

( No wonder the country folk songs all with a business slant , or ironic , or that someone had eaten at any mare bet. Sad here , do not know how. I sing my American husband sad Russian songs, and he : " It's an outrage what, why coachman comrade not to take him to the hospital ? he that insurance did not exist? ")

Кирилл Сызранский 14.09.2011 19:03

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Сообщение от World; 1771943"
sad here , in general , can not .

Yes, and no blues , and gospel , and the sad country ballads and Johnny Cash sang just hilarious , and no such direction as the soul ...
Here , too, " with a business orientation" and " ironic " song :

Ask her husband, by the way, why is this of folsomskoy Türmen mom did not listen and shot a man in Reno.
:)>


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