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Wladzislaw, a pleasant landscape to clear money.
The figure in the distance on the track even ... Milo.

One suffered. And what do you need to believe that he Tretyakovka offers that kind of money for even a clover.
I would not believe in fantasy eto.Razygravshayasya seller.
Yes Tretyakov know the road to auctions where you can such Klever (today) to buy a maximum of 100.

Wladzislaw, or here-http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=11735
Recently discussed. The worse the landscape than kleverovsky?
Sun is not really red.

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 151706)

yes, and very meager amount of such true "klevertsev"

I would like to clarify, not "klevertsov" miserly amount, and authenticity of works Klever (father).
Yes, and strange people now sells for 370t.u.e and tangled in the two pines Clover YY (1882-1942) son? or Clover YY (1850-1924) father? "Who is the author?
Once everything is very lightly .. starting with the photo pictures ..

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 152696)

authenticity of works Klever (father).

Well, now, it's very difficult to determine, where everything himself Clover's father wrote, and where his "team" work on the main front podmalevku and backgrounds to perform. There was such a period. A wizard really paying much attention to his famous fakturopostroeniyu subjects of the first plan (tree trunks and loved), then a thin Underpainting, next to the small residence shadows, brushes stiff small and midsize businesses put short strokes are solid across the trunks. Similar in tone, but different in color.
And if you remember how he originally worked with soaked cranberries and a glass, and cardboard lying horizontally ...
On the X-ray image, by the way, we saw kleverovsky (of course, not only his) receiver protsarapavanie handle brush for wet-on trunks. And to see them (pictures) can be, as he built the track, modify, and sometimes traces of general re-use the canvas. Its easy to watch: he has a number of techniques, a certain set, which are unchanged. At different periods. How to find, as they say, and poured ...
Sky is built in his characteristic and typical for him.
Something I thought of studying and in oriental-ekspertizny language began to move.
In short, clover-father-no mystery and no great difficulty for the expert, for the art historian. Chemotherapy was not necessary to do there, so look in the X-ray, UV, and can be in a strong side light, too good.
All signed and put the date on the sketches even put on the back autograph.
Application signature ... Okay, already bust.
In short, for forest landscapes:
the presence of dark contours trunks of large trees in the foreground, separating the image of a tree from the image background and a group of hull, thin strokes, intermittent flashing light along the trunk.
This is clearly seen in large formats. We in the museum, there are two, well just reference things.
You must forgive me, I understand that Ostap had suffered, but was engaged in clover for a long time, watched it and this way and that, but now remembered. A good artist, to be honest, not a genius, no-good.
A really about "a la Clover, you can write a doctorate. Or do not write about the fraud?
Connoisseurs-art? A?
Time is free, and you can write. In the business card stamped ... "How cool!" (C)

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 152706)

Feedback through rubbish from foreign expertise or the Internet or exchange of experts on "Gelos" (not from a red diploma?) Chemotherapy was expensive pictures you see do not need, but just look at the side: eek: The man who wrote all these pictures Klever seen only at a distance or museum. I will not comment further.
About the picture. Red price for today - around $ 50000. If you give $ 100000 - take the money and run:) Clever in Russia know only Ignatova and Rimsky-Korsakov, here Lomize, which has had some punctures with certain authors. In addition to her expertise here must necessarily be technological expertise. It is necessary to check the coincidence of pigment signatures and pigment paintings. If there is no match for the paint - the authorship is doubtful. For the money examination must be flawless and of itself without a sponsor, referred to in the conclusion Lomize.

SergeiSK, Sergej on this film at all a delusion, two days is not who does not know who obsuzhdayut.Syn or father? On examination like his father, the master wrote Clover Yu (son) .. specifically laughs all the forum ..

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 152966)

here Lomize,

This is also very negative and bolshoy.Pochitay examination, who is the author? also not clear, so do not write examination ..

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 153046)

According to the examination such as the father, the master wrote Clover Yu (son) .. specifically laughs at all the forum ..

I think this is easier - it does not laugh, but just does not know why I mixed up:)

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 153076)

but simply does not know why I confused

Sergey, what is wrong here .. but this is clearly not the master paintings, the mediator may ..

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 153086)

obviously not the master paintings, the mediator can

No master uniquely! Earn money is not sinful, but it is desirable to know the essence when it sold the subject:)