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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2712441)

what is good and what is bad.

Not always the same among artists (who can and seeing) and the buyers.

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 2712391)

Do you zaintresovalis my humble person. So I just have that unsightly mediator who robs the poor artists. My pricing is simple:
1. If there is no agreement with the artist, and it interests me in terms of creativity, then:
a. Price Artist + 20-30%at the top and sell directly to my customers
through the gallery - + 50-100%of the price.
b. redeem the work of the artist (minus 30-50%of the price) and sell to the same or exhibited in the gallery.
2.If the work under the contract, then I define the final, the market value of the work and the flow rate of 50 to 50. All costs, discounts and more at my expense.
Today, unfortunately, the gallery was forced to close for political reasons. Art malovostrebovano. Chinese doing the project and try to enter the Canadian market.
I hope my answer this time to suit you. Or something else is not clear?

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Methods of course there is (a I have already submitted). but the artist can still evaluate their work on its own. And wait, wait, wait ... And best of all does not evaluate or sell. 20-50 years from now someone nabredete by an unknown author and begin promotion. And, perhaps, become a millionaire. And again, 50 to 50 - the mediator (the owner) money, fame artist (posthumously).

When idea who you're talking, it is always easier. Dzerzhinsky I said and you go on. Prices are set on the secondary market (even Gelman oo understand, but I'm afraid in part). It works again when purchased and sold more than once. This is always done at the auction. auction it is the secondary market. I sold a lot of work, but leave them in no hurry, and now I do not sell much. I do not for sale, not work again, and supply constraints.
All this talk about the taste of the customers with money, it's hard to say. If you buy expensive deliberate mediocrity, that's their business but I poddelyvatsya under this not going to. Its exhibitions I have proved everything to everyone, corresponding to understand.

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 2712451)

Do not always the same among artists (who can and seeing) and the buyers.

Always the same, because it is based on a thorough study of the historical experience and contemporary art.

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Сообщение от Pavel; 2712461 "

I do not for sale, not work again, and supply constraints .

Bravo ! So you do not need anything and all of your arguments in this thread - it's just a desire to help other artists achieve what you have achieved ? You see how important it is to properly express their thoughts . I just realized that you - happy -sufficient popular artists ...

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2712461)

Same as always, because it is based on a thorough study of the historical experience and contemporary art.

Again you ...
Few of today's customers (and artists), taking as a basis a deep historical experience and study contemporary art ...
(They just do not know it)

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Сообщение от Buscador; 2712391"

Today, unfortunately, the gallery was forced to close for political reasons. Art malovostrebovano. Chinese doing the project and try to enter the Canadian market.

Not about the art, but the situation is delineated:

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The main barometer of impending disaster has always been the price of real estate. If the price goes down, if the rich people for no reason suddenly sell houses and apartments in luxury townships and neighborhoods, if palaces are empty - wait for the hurricane, which shall not spare, neither the government nor the people.

For months, real estate professionals were surprised and frightened look on cottage Rublevka, New Riga and other "gold" places, scattered to the west of Moscow - country paradise began to empty. Check out wealthy Russians abroad in 2010-2011 bore the character of the time and not very noticeable phenomenon turned into a wholesale flight. Flocks of millionaires and billionaires fly to England, the USA, on the Cote d'Azur and in Australia, casting houses, gardens, ponds and living in the ponds of carp and silver carp. Whole acres on the ruble resemble a ghost town - instead of the hosts in the homes of the wealthy were rare single servant, instead of electric light in the evenings the area flooded ghastly light of the moon, in unique gardens and flower beds climbs out of the ground a huge devil weed - hogweed.

But the most serious concern of Realtors is new, just a trend - the elite began to sell apartments in the center of Moscow. For the first time in many years, the price of Arbat, Tverskaya, Khamovnicheskaya apartments in Moscow falls. In the ranking of high-end housing at Knight Frank Moscow - always abundant and overflowing with money - now occupies 22th place out of 28 world cities - with a negative price movements.

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2711491)

Advertising is a necessary product of a transparent and competitive pricing.
Setting aside even the ability, the prices of paintings, especially the young and unknown, usually cause the unprepared human issue. Or rather, the answer ...

Therefore important not to obscure the "quality of work", and competitive prices on the markets available to them. Or at least sane.
They often also have the artists who live only with arts and, therefore, set up to receive income.

Another thing is that not all artists like the level of prices achieved by the level of the business.

Up to a certain level of quality of work will not buy at any price, if there will be exhibited strong competitors.
Achieve technical excellence required for entry into the market is not just about. Podryazhatsya had to work for successful artists to "enter into their hand," to understand the mechanisms of writing songs.
There are also techniques that have introduced an advertising poster features a picture, and the picture will look advantageous. Especially since many of its competitors do not pay attention to the defects in their vehicles. As a result of technically competent beginners picture looked good. But I will stress that technology is transferred individually from master to student success, which is able to perceive it.

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2712911 "

podryazhatsya had to work for successful artists to " enter into their hand," to understand the mechanisms of writing songs .

This is your personal experience and thank God, to broadcast it as an example of the rest - is not correct. If you have (had ? ) Problems with writing songs , it does not imply the existence of such problems in others.

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2712911 "

podryazhatsya had to work for successful artists to " enter into their hand," to understand the mechanisms of writing songs.
There are also techniques that have introduced an advertising poster features a picture , and the picture will look advantageous. Especially since many of its competitors do not pay attention to the defects in their vehicles . As a result of technically competent beginners picture look good .

This seems to be typical of a certain type of art? In painting, you can cheat the buyer , professional - never! How mummers do not play - all the flaws are visible at once .

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 2712951)

This is probably typical of a certain type of art? In painting, you can cheat the buyer , professional - never! How mummers do not play - all the flaws are visible at once .

There is a rich lady on opening day . She can buy anything and anyone comfortable. She does not need critics . She does not even know that the Earth revolves around the Sun. In order to promote her artist must pass hours in television advertising of cosmetics artist's name for 50 000 dollars a minute . Therefore, as the lady always buys at its discretion. Similarly, in the galleries. The interiors of the palace in such a lady made the best architects , and will look like a new chair in the interior or painting , the lady thinks.
Beggar art not a lady counselor ... Oh, and deception of such buyers is fraught with casual violence, and the artist , and with his family , and good if the artist is still alive . This is not a theory but a safety artwork.

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2713001 "

and express my opinion a successful entrepreneur

About a ...
Well, as the saying goes - the tongue no one pulled. Refine this place , what is the " luck "?
In tangible achievements specify any ( Hotels , newspapers , ships ... )
Or achieving fame /glory ( records at auction , books , monographs, ... ) ?

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2713021)

Yes. Fees invested . Where - the secret . In business, this is not to any question , no answer. Attachments are working and live a normal life without working.
No steamers . Shy away from fame . Who should - know ...