Daviche invited artists to the country in the open air. I almost committed suicide. What to massage, then goat's milk to drink. When they came to say that Emile Zola would have given to Faith for the concept of La Boheme, they laughed, asked why, replied that presented as Artem would beat Emile.

It offers a K-Maler in the theme of the seminars, I moved here because there is something to talk about. And where if not here?

At the seminar most interesting for us, the organizers began at the end when no one is left, and began asking questions. For us, this understanding of the pain points that need to stay especially during the seminar.
For example the question - Is it good to promote the artist to hold an exhibition at Gazprom? And in similar places: banks, the Duma? We replied that the way - no way, and to sell - why not. Especially if it's free, but if for the money - that for what?

One Validating your questions http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=49
recalled the situation.
Recently, almost at the same time I was approached the heirs of two artists who died in the early 2000's. requesting the creation of albums of their fathers.
I then, immediately after the death of artists, had conversations with them just about it.
But then they did not heed my advice. Although I have just offered to send superprofessionalnogo photographer and make shooting frost, even in the future, but that is all fix. Should not have anything from them except the desire. No, even the money do not take the time, do not sell yet (!), Is a matter of two or three days.
No, they came to "collectors", poked his finger: "This, this, this and this took away most ...", (!!!) best, twenty, fifteen paintings at a time.
And in the end. For the exhibition is anything else you can gather, work to 30 at least, but for the album at least 100 photos of the most interesting is not found.
And the issues with sales remained. Sell more they want. But how to sell, when the artists have already forgotten about, no exhibitions, no albums ...
Sold most-most-cream.
Remains that have not bought a carton, sketches, portraits of family members ...
A sad situation.
And all because they did not want to deal with professionals, listen to other people and used by other councils. Decided to "Activities" legacy of themselves and all their activities are limited to opening the doors of workshops and conversion of notes sold for.
Final of the "occupation" legacy was obvious to nimu some heirs and came ...

Cyril Syzransky, totally agree with you.
Such situations occur very often, when the heirs are not interested creativity of his passing and absolutely do not understand what to do with this heritage. A prime example - a situation where the parents of our Validating "the truck was taken all the work (well yet) in the museum, and now the grandchildren come to their senses, but too late.

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In Soviet times, in principle, after the death of the artist, too, "flew" art and tried to buy the best works for their museums. But times have changed and now the picture can get nowhere.
Any relatives after the death of his neighbor always dismantle documents.
Why is this not happening with the pictures? Why are they not fix, at least in memory?
The answer is: they do not understand that they lived next to the artist. It was his job, not a hobby or a "fad. I repeat once again (already written about it), the artist is alive, yet he is remembered. But you have to remember not only relatives but also by art lovers. How we are on the forum remembered forgotten names? And only because of them once mentioned in his memoirs or in print.
I have had some experience organizing creative, there are questions - ask in l /s, will share with pleasure.

Banks? Here in St Petersburg tried. I can not, nor respectable status vystvaki not, no sales. Why? In the bank did not freely enter, security asked why ... staff look around and everything looks bad grace. Hanging can be successful and not so. People come to the bank is not behind this, it is important, they are not ready to buy .... Plus, only one that calculations are convenient. It would be convenient that when the bank was precisely gallery, one room, ie to be able to work ...

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A lot of pain points ... I have such an impression that begins once the pressure of something like a new ideology, the formation of which is not in the minds of artists. Some new totality. It prevents. It is not even glamor and mass culture, it is too shallow for this flies ... I am not a supporter of conspiracy theories. But I think that "moving" some people, but collectors and buyers buy just completely different, ie, the priorities are quite different. Actual art took its place, it is interesting to watch, but it inherited the "collectivization" just from the system that it criticizes. You want people to buy something inside her house, no matter how he does call, decoration or collection ... But the "internal" volume is already personal, private life, she intuitively turned away from any collectivity ... Ways own art, too, should be discussed ... Investing in what kind of art?

For the successful organization of the exhibition in a bank (or any such facility) is necessary, in my opinion, one thing, but perhaps most importantly, the condition - the interest of the bank holding such exhibitions, a clear understanding of what purpose it is arranged. The Bank should act primarily by interested person and the show should be, again, in my opinion, a permanent nature, with periodically changing exhibitions. Otherwise, no one this exhibition will bring neither pleasure nor dividends ...

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I think the most painful point is the structure of the artist - gallery - buyer relationships, and understanding what they want today, tomorrow and in the future as they see this road and what is their understanding of the word itself - the art of ...

Exhibitions in the banks, I think, generally unprincipled. In banks with a different mood of the people go, and not with the lyrical. Bank's interest in selling someone else's paintings - bold illusion, nothing more. Freestuff interior decoration - closer to the topic ... But, this is for "poor" banks. In addition, the bank just such a person does not have the staff to drive the next to the client in about your pictures. Is it only a security guard:). For the image of the bank may hold an exhibition of himself, but they need the names and arrange for (sponsor) of the bank, most likely in the external site and with great pomp. Dividends - is generally not applicable to the subject. Dividends will be needed - the bank's on at the SIF organized than some already taken. Small but real chance to sell his paintings are in the furniture stores. But this - rather episodes, but once the mediator "eat" part of your potential profits. With one, true, furniture showrooms, I had a positive experience in 2007. Once or twice a month brought out "babas" 30-60 thousand rub. But, freebie ended with the onset of the crisis. The shop burned through. Count on strong demand is not necessary. However, the "forwarding" possible everywhere. But it is better to engage in its "structure". What meaning lure people to other people's sites?
If you can already customer declaim on such topics, it is your old customer, most likely, and only need to "submit to his will":). Otherwise, if the alien Dude, how much more wrong to go into general topics, but should be "gently but inexorably to impose their views on the understanding of art, while in the framework of ethical norms." Otherwise, "forcing" is not in your gallery:). More frequently, all the people come, or for something specific, that is looking for, or have seen on your site, or do not know what he wants.

Semen Semenovich, it is not in opposition to your position, but by personal beliefs.

Agree! But there may be nuances. The bank itself may purchase all the paintings of the artist, telling him that the future of their fate should not be interested in the artist!
   Or the bank's management may be "inexplicable" love for the artist and they would be happy to brag about them, push the picture and to acquaint him with worthy customers free of charge.
   But of course the great joy of this process, the artist himself and did not receive. Moral is easier to work with literacy and gallerists.

I agree, I watched this too. This should encourage such visits, do not wince when people want to just stare and ask the price. I've seen in a gallery that practice, that the exhibitions were held and a new, next is quite long, haphazardly hung paintings by artists who have exhibited here, and another in the back room were paintings. All hung on almost half a year. And it worked. People get used to the fact that there are things to see and choose, and at different prices. And serious collectors to come ...

I only rely on their own experiences, both positive and negative. Partnership with the Bank (of course with the leadership of the bank) - This is the nuance of which I spoke. When there is a desire to come into contact with a fine, to raise its image, and simultaneously a good assemble a collection, not putting, in fact, a special effort. Naturally, I never did an exposition in the corridors or operating rooms. Typically, this is the part of institutions, which come to VIP-clients, where the meetings and negotiations. Certainly, we should also note that this is not possible after the "Dating on the street." First, the same interests and desire to do what others do not, and if there is, then another ...
And here, as they say, everyone has his own approach. It all depends on the level of experts, which you have typed in the gallery. The problem in fact a noble - to sow reasonable, good, eternal ... gathering with a good harvest ...;) Sometimes you want the client to load and sometimes to let go, that he agonized for a long time, why he had not bought that painting, which is already " sailed. Today I have such a constant clients. The main thing is that after visiting a client leaving only positive emotions.
I go to the site to find out for myself something useful, something new. Mozhnet be, to share their experiences, if someone needed. It is possible that mature some interesting collaborative project ... For injections, even if they do, I draw attention to the least ... And in your letters I have not noticed anything "to spite". Communicate with pleasure ...:)

Subject of new places for exhibition and sale - urgently topical. Many questions like:
- And in Gazprom
- And in the State Duma

From my conversations with people the impression that in these places - does not work.
From observations on the sides, it seems that the hotels can be interesting, at least in Moscow, I regularly see the pictures on the walls with information that is sold and bodies. Plus of hotels in the fact that there are many people, and being constantly new.

And all this does not work, as a rule, except for episodes. "Tourist shopping" usually is the maximum of $ 200-300. For more expensive work going on purpose, knowing where. This mobile work is good only as an aid. To build on this business, I think not. In any case, its effectiveness is not higher than business "in transition".
My iron conviction that there is nothing at all, never sell. One of my (now almost former) friend - a high official of Gazprom - truly puzzled why buy paintings when you can buy a poster - a huge savings and does not look worse. Here, if you're lucky, we should seek "aesthetes" gazpromovtsa:)
Such little, alas :)...

Mark, in this case can be said another way: why buy now if it can get for free?

According to Gazprom, will try to report back to you tomorrow evening. For us at the seminar "Investing in art ..." will come five people there. Talked in the break.

Here completely agree. A goal: from Gazprom (or similar agency) - show the delegations, partners, etc. high level of culture and understanding of art ...; for the gallery - the possibility of energy transfer of financial flows in the cultural sphere (that is, in our modest budgets;))