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Pavel 08.08.2013 20:11

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 2707381)
Pavel, and you can not agree with you?
Computer technology is useful for creating images not knowing how to draw.
For example, I have show quite a specific idea. I worked long and hard telling what I want to see. My assistant is building fragments, photographs them, then is required to stupor and Photoshop. Very often get what you need.
Moreover, it sells through photobanks "manufactured" in this way the image. Prices are not small, and the number of sales is sometimes very much. And orders advertisers performs the same tricks with an absolute inability to draw.
I think these "artists" will be more and more. As for "the wall" that some arrange reproduction, other important only to the content of images, others go to museums and virtually. It turns out that the rights of Artem - in the form of painting masterpieces only need fresh ideas and great skill. ))))) *** 0.000%of the total emerging.

In art, there are many different branches and offices. Alive, rice, grams, etc. There are also computer graphics and there are also many artists and there is also valued the original master. So you're doing the right thing and do not even think and do not hesitate. I am referring only to the higher category in painting, drawing, sculpture. If you're nice to assume that I'm wrong, but I'm right. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> I meant and other digital copies of posters and their role in the art market, rather osutstvie role.

Seriy 08.08.2013 21:04

Not only the Chinese are buying Russian art , but there are Russian and gallery owners who work in the Chinese market , go to China with the exhibitions . There are artists who are themselves involved in the Chinese show.

 Magnolia, you are talking about the picture , a picture of something , and the art- market trades are not images of something, but the originals , EM emanation of thought, feeling and technique of the artist , made in one piece.
 Did you know that there are people who bought private symphony composers , te symphony that never never be fulfilled?

Кирилл Сызранский 08.08.2013 21:09

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2707481 "
Do you know that there are people who bought private symphony composers , te symphony that never never be fulfilled ?

A man , dressed in black,
     Bowing politely , ordered
     Requiem and I hid myself. I sat down at once
     And he began to write - and from that time for me
     Do not come to my black people;
     And I'm glad : I was sorry to part b
     With my job , though quite ready
     Already Requiem.
( c) < ! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Artoil-A 08.08.2013 21:10

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2707451)
.... I mean digital copies and other posters and their role in the art market , rather osutstvie role .

At the end of the restructuring of the best foreign posters were about $ 300 - a good price budding artist. On the other hand prepress graphic file requires a highly skilled finishing . Sometimes comparable to a full repaint .
So often do not print the copies, graphic interpretations that are similar engravings manufactured old engraving process images of paintings in books.

Хранитель укропа 08.08.2013 23:08

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 1342091)
Actually , it would be interesting if any of experts took the points and compared our art market from the West. Roughly speaking, in a column , for clarity.

Here , again , it is appropriate to refer to the opinion of the collector, Prince Nikita D. Lobanov- Rostov , an eminent Russian expatriates living in the UK.

" Every day in London auction houses sell an average of 2,000 paintings. Plus 500 paintings sold to galleries and dealers , lead to a result in 2500 sold paintings a day. This equates to almost annual turnover of sales of paintings in Russia , where the art market is still chaotic and accidental .
It lacks the basic criteria of the art market - the concept of quality and attribution. No price stability. "

Pavel 09.08.2013 07:31

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Сообщение от Keeper dill 2707591
Here , again , it is appropriate to refer to the opinion of the collector, Prince Nikita D. Lobanov- Rostov , an eminent Russian expatriates living in the UK.

" Every day in London auction houses sell an average of 2,000 paintings. Plus 500 paintings sold to galleries and dealers , lead to a result in 2500 sold paintings a day. This equates to almost annual turnover of sales of paintings in Russia , where the art market is still chaotic and accidental .
It lacks the basic criteria of the art market - the concept of quality and attribution. No price stability ".

Stable prices we do not because there is no tsenoopredeliteley auctions , paintings we sell less, but as it were, under kravatno . Also sold in England, the picture is not all settle down , and basically after a while again and again sold . As prices rise paintings sold more frequently as the decline, selling them freezes and the picture may be in the attic. So the total amount of component no .
Someone really does not want to order in our country .

Артём 09.08.2013 10:02

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Сообщение от Pavel; 2707721 "
price stability we do not have

Pavel, but nothing we do not, it's not a question of the system and mentality. "There" for everything there is a buyer, we have with our Russian cynicism - " nafig necessary ." They panties and bras Marilyn Monroe sold , this is the same for us Zikina underwear . Buy ? It you want ? So in all. So untwist there first , and then advertised come here and all will be . Fair promotion is reminiscent of head banging against the wall.
I have a couple of customers in Prague is, surprisingly, the people over the years to buy , friends, lead , relatives , orders for the holidays and do not forget , sometimes you think - why? Why is smiling yesterday gave a lot of money , but today in zh.pu send ? The general level of culture and mentality . It did not work.

Магнолия 09.08.2013 10:23

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 2707821)
I'm in Prague


Back in Czechoslovakia, I visited almost all the palaces and castles of the country, and drew attention to the highest culture of collecting.

I think the dog is buried here.

Pavel 09.08.2013 10:37

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 2707821)
Pavel, but nothing we do not, it's not a question of the system and mentality. "There" for everything there is a buyer, we have with our Russian cynicism - " nafig necessary ." They panties and bras Marilyn Monroe sold , this is the same for us Zikina underwear . Buy ? It you want ? So in all. So untwist there first , and then advertised come here and all will be . Fair promotion is reminiscent of head banging against the wall.
I have a couple of customers in Prague is, surprisingly, the people over the years to buy , friends, lead , relatives , orders for the holidays and do not forget , sometimes you think - why? Why is smiling yesterday gave a lot of money , but today in zh.pu send ? The general level of culture and mentality . Here, nothing works .

I do not want to argue, but beat his ears, cheeks our favorite pastime. And can say to yourself ...

Кирилл Сызранский 09.08.2013 10:48

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2707721)
Someone does not want the order in our country.

When we have established in the country "order" ravelovskogo type, then do stop buying art, and even power for their propaganda will not order picturesque agitation.


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