Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство - Relationship and mutual obligations between the artist and gallery owners

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Сообщение от DSF (Сообщение 686684)

Unfortunately, the Soviet system has fostered a special type of artist. On the one hand the artist used to receive from the state apartments, shops, jobs, money, honor and awards. For this he had to carry out the social order, distribution and fate of his works are not worried about the artist. On the other hand, to obtain these benefits, it was necessary to break through to a manger, because wealth was not enough. To do this, I had driven away the competition. I have found these gatherings the night before the next election meetings, which we called "the headquarters of October, and which were discussed in detail plans for the expulsion of their colleagues with grain beds. All election technology used today, is long been known for our artists. This is an ignorant generation that is accustomed to take unceremoniously, stifle capable deprived of Culture. As a result, when the state withdrew itself from the art, these artists looked back and saw: Oh, gallery! And they apply to this gallery, as to the state: we have your pictures, you give us all the benefits free. And competitors - to choke, out of habit. And if the gallery fails, then gallery owners - a dealer and a swindler. But the gallery - not the state, the scale of the problem and not the others. To understand this and build the right relationships - need culture. And it is not.
Sometimes I am so sorry our gallery owners, with whom they have to deal ... It must have nerves of steel. And what are the different local bottling "Van Gog"? In Samara them only in my memory there were three pieces. And all - genius, and all - millions of Give.

I do not agree with your assessment and feature artists of the "Soviet" period. But the State was not indifferent to what will people do who are educated (not like the current quality) for his schet.I do not forget about the totalitarian nature of the gosudarstva.Pri all its limitations and stupidity, this state understood what effect art has on the current cheloveka.A now employs only himself.
Cultural heritage "of the ignorant generation that is accustomed to take unceremoniously, stifle capable deprived of Culture" is the basis of many museum and private collections. With respect to rank, wealth and preferences, then, strangely, their nor-not canceled today, they bought most bestydnym way for those same officials from the "control of the culture." And in Soviet times were the artists do not care about all this tinsel for the sake of creative independence, but now I personally do not watch these.
Regards galerey.Hudozhnik creates not for them. They - posrednik.Esli mediator clever and in control of their appetites, so he arrived and always vostrebovan.V any business.
With creative Samara artists znakom.Ne Could you clarify - of whom it is your unsympathetic statement.

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Сообщение от DSF (Сообщение 686684)

And what are the different local bottling "Van Gog"? In Samara them only in my memory there were three pieces.

That Van Gogh's "local bottling know one, but it is hardly sold anywhere else, why? Do not know.
There are, though more local "Chagall" and "Utrillo" and all ... like ...

Well, what you cling to the words? all because it is understandable that people wanted to say democratic - the product appealing to understand human values, and for whom Velazquez and Michelangelo wrote - for the Pope and the King, it does not matter-there dogs, children, pretty dresses, the suffering and sins of men. In contrast, he-art for aesthetes, like Magritte, Rauschenberg.
Picasso by almost an antique. That is his focus, he like all this modern, but dig a little antique with severe restrictions on color, composition, nature pictures, themes. Therefore, it is popular.

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 687334)

but dig a little-

... and find the source ...

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 687384)

... and find the source ...

Nata not buy a Picasso.

Cyril. Tanguy not thought about the price, the pictures of these and other artists he liked and he helped them nearly free of charge simply because they were talented and the poor and the society of aristocrats and bourgeois were not taken.

Long as you shake the market will have nothing to sell.

DOSAAF I do not answer, they shall work. It seems he wrote the language.

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 687454)

Nate do not buy a Picasso.

.. do not even know what to say ... I'm already in such a spiritual condition, which generally try to buy only that, "without which it really does not do" ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 686194)

I'm still young, many do not know. I'm learning.
Here you admire, something new to learn: "aristocrats were few and they unscrewed the head successfully", "more customers more than bought and sold," the wider circle of people buying and selling so much the better, "" Volga flows into the Caspian Sea, "Horses eat oats and hay ... No, it's not you already, sorry. But also correct, yes?

What to do if such a long time comes. It is not difficult to explain. If you are looking for in Tanga interests of what they mean.

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 687334)

Just Picasso schedule more than a painter, though a good painter.

Schedule it magnificent, and made the runoff, it is unclear how, with all this available for one human life :-)

Although I am that Picasso antique, because -
1.I women and men had always been beautiful and noble, even if they are the eyes in different directions, we understand that beautiful. Those who are trying to operate under the Picasso can not ensure this, they obtained freaks.
2. Topics Picasso, a man and a woman, artist and model, the sea and man, mother and child, the war as a tragedy - all classic, antique.
3. Composition always iron - unless it happens to some thread of the offset center of gravity? so mad he did not write, it is always centered and strictly balanced.
And TD and TP ...

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 688404)

graph it magnificent, and made the runoff, it is unclear-how with all this available for one human life :-)

Although I am that Picasso antique, because -
1.I women and men had always been beautiful and noble, even if they are the eyes in different directions, we understand that beautiful. Those who are trying to operate under the Picasso can not ensure this, they obtained freaks.
2. Topics Picasso, a man and a woman, artist and model, the sea and man, mother and child, the war as a tragedy - all classic, antique.
3. Composition always iron - unless it happens to some thread of the offset center of gravity? so mad he did not write, it is always centered and strictly balanced.
And TD and TP ...

A disgusts me (except a few works) .. well, what can I do?
(And he himself obnoxious)

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 688404)

Education and academic work every day, lived in France, in imressionistov composition in the first place always. Cezanne is a composition. Felt. A pity that there was Picasso.