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Glasha 07-04-2011 12:48

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Originally Posted by Guriev , Igor ; 1589081 "
Actually I got the impression that .
What people are ashamed to put " Senka " because he wants to hunger ONE TRUE "...

Well, I do .
Personally, I am :
sophisticated texts of the two donov , sincere caucasian with wisdom Samvel , intelligent DSF - all I read with pleasure .
In particular, in your journalistic provocative speech , comrade .

" Senka " do not put so as not to interfere
but in the latter case , ie, in your , I can not , because , really , absolutely do not share ,
exact - I do not understand
exact - do not understand how anyone can not understand
 more accurately - I do not understand how you can not feel .

However ,
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Originally Posted by DSF (Post 1588963)
this is his personal characteristics, so it works .

A similar situation I had with surrealism . No matter how to deploy, or expand, or deepen - no .
At Daly did not want to watch . No Chirico , Tanguy no , no , Magritte , let alone an imitator - it is not saved.
And I'm not very worried about this :)
But that's another story .

Konstantin 07-04-2011 13:16

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Originally Posted by Samvel (Post 1588833)
One day while walking

Interesting story.

I love these mystical.
Allowed himself a little touch up the photo.

artcol 07-04-2011 13:24

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Originally Posted by DSF (Post 1588963)
abstractionist painter simplifies the form , ie, operates more or less simple geometric designs and markings . This allows us to concentrate on color . Discarding all that call volume , perspective , light and shade , " performance " , " Contouring " , etc. This greatly facilitates and simplifies the job - no need to worry about a zillion things . At first, it's very nice , you feel right yet physical pleasure - how great that one should not draw any ear ... :)

To paraphrase : a theoretical physicist simplifies the reality , that is, operates more or less simple concepts and notions. This allows us to concentrate on your core. Well , etc. But the engineer must consider many things of the physical world : friction , material properties , etc. But the progress of a move first .

SAH 07-04-2011 14:54

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Originally Posted by Guriev, Igor (Post 1589081)
What do people shy

A long pause, but I want to say that the theme of one of the best.
Best.

Игорь Гурьев 07-04-2011 15:08

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Originally Posted by Glasha (Post 1589243)
Well, really. Not offend "people."
Personally, I am:
sophisticated texts of the two donov, sincere caucasian with wisdom Samvel, intelligent DSF - all I read with pleasure.
In particular, in your journalistic provocative speech, comrade

"Senka" do not put so as not to interfere
but in the latter case, ie, in your, I can not, because, really, absolutely do not share,
exact - I do not understand
exact - do not understand how anyone can not understand
 more accurately - I do not understand how you can not feel.

I like a phrase that may be irrelevant, but somewhere, perhaps, is not alien to him.

Between the two extreme views is not the truth; between them lies the problem.
Abstract - really a problem.

I do not want to convince the unconvinced. I just think that to balance the views of abstraction-Filov should add, say, mine.
And what is it unclear?

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The same story for me with surrealism. No matter how to deploy, or expand, or deepen - no. At Daly did not want to watch. Who would not convince me. No Chirico, Tanguy no, no, Magritte, not to mention the imitators - it is not saved.
Dali - just a very average artist with a memorized techniques (oplyvalovo, vydvigalovo, land-desert, an empty sky ...). It is much more interesting to write lyrics than a brush.

De Chirico - no not surrealist, that he would have no say about yourself. And just in general great, consider the artist.
Magritte - just weak in the painting, but it, unlike Dali, there is some sincerity that much swimming.
And, say, painting by Kandinsky on the quality even more slabzhe magrittovskoy ...

Vlasta 07-04-2011 15:21

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Originally Posted by SAH; 1589341 "
long silent, but I want to say that the theme of one of the best . Best .

I fully support this opinion . Theme - one of the best on the forum for intellectual and cultural urological importance . I read with great delight and pleasure , and express my deep appreciation and respect for people that have filed it professionally and competently .

Кирилл Сызранский 07-04-2011 15:23

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Originally Posted by Guriev , Igor (Post 1589371)
just weak in the painting

And what does this mean ?
Here you often write : " weak draftsman , " " no colorist , " " weak painter . "
And with what /whom do you compare ?
With students of art institutions ? There are well painted plaster antique head , yes . Do you have the " ability " before the eyes see when you write , for instance, this :
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Originally Posted by Guriev , Igor (Post 1589371)
Dali - just a very average artist

Huh? ?

Art-lover 07-04-2011 15:33

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Originally Posted by fabosch (Post 1587913)
throw nonsense Yan wider

Beautifully said. Only in the language of poetry and we can talk about painting.
Or - when there is no gift of versification - on surzhik metaphors.

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Originally Posted by Guriev, Igor (Post 1589081)
What people are ashamed to put "Senka" because he wants to hunger ONE "TRUTH" ...
...
Most uzhasTnoe - it popytatstso form a united opinion naschot art.

Senka you for PLURALIZM
A large Glasha Senka for suralizm: :)
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Originally Posted by Glasha (Post 1589243)
A similar story for me with surrealism. No matter how to deploy, or expand, or deepen - no. At Daly did not want to watch. Who would not convince me.

Do not look at Dali - take a look around:
And near and far - surreal terms. ))

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Originally Posted by DSF (Post 1588963)
Here is a practical dilemma. On the one hand, the abstractionist painter simplifies the form, ie, operates more or less simple geometric designs and markings.
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This allows you to concentrate on color. Discarding all that call volume, perspective, light and shade, "performance", "Contouring", etc. This greatly facilitates and simplifies the job - no need to worry about a zillion things. At first, it's very nice, you feel right yet physical pleasure - how great that one should not draw any ear ...

On the other hand, after a while you start to experience difficulties. The soul requires diversity and abstract artist pushes a fairly narrow framework. The result is a feeling that you walk in a circle, repeating the same thing over and over again.

And here is us and helps to "associative abstraction. We, like, again, did not bother (ears we draw all the same is not necessary), but at the same time, a little diversity and complexity of work, adding a hint of "image". Many artists have successfully balance on this face.

On my system, the definitions of this scheme is not abstract, but abstraktoidnoy painting.
Abstract paintings arise by virtue of an inner necessity - when the need arises from the artist ("reason" in the terminology Gurieva) to express the complex image, for which the figurative is neorganichnym. What is already here, "simplify" the artist's life - the ultimate sophistication.
All this applies to the "associative abstraction": a measure of success in this area is not at all have been holding a line production for profit "abstraktikov" with a hint of the subject.

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Originally Posted by artcol; 1589283"
To paraphrase: theoretical physicist, oversimplifies the realities, that is, operates more or less simple concepts and notions. This allows us to concentrate on your core. Well, etc. But the engineer must consider many things of the physical world: friction, material properties, etc. But the progress of a move first.

Interesting image, but I would elaborate. "Real" abstractionist "is a theoretical physicist and engineer, experimenter rolled into one. Two words - Nikola Tesla.

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Originally Posted by fabosch; 1584673"
... not look at it even now at this point - balancing between two worlds. As far as history is a common phenomenon - how many of these figures, where the tongue is hopelessly shakes about the numbers "0"? What do you think?

Be sure to tell you.

artcol 07-04-2011 15:34

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky (Post 1589391)

And with what /whom do you compare?

Also interesting, especially about the
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weak graphic artist

Кирилл Сызранский 07-04-2011 15:37

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Originally Posted by artcol (Post 1589403)
is also interesting, especially about


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