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Кирилл Сызранский 06.08.2013 23:41

Guardian of dill, this quote from 26.03.2010, and its
author here this taldychet their endless mantra for several years.

Хранитель укропа 07.08.2013 08:47

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Сообщение от Marta (Сообщение 1007161)
I want to say that agree - at the word for the development of the art market ( and indeed, global - culture! ) Can (we have !) Is a state. That does not preclude the state funding of individual projects at the state , city , district, and others, in descending order , levels.

You detachment from reality , visit any " parthozaktiv " on Monday at City Hall , where the main issues .. garbage collection , preparation for the autumn- winter period , problems with storm water and household sewage , fecal and repair of housing stock , roads, schools and training an additional 2,000 cases hoz.voprosam and so on. and so.
No systematic work from the bottom ( from the artistic community ) perspectives and never will be !
It is traditional folly to hope for the landowner and the state , clean pink whim ..

Магнолия 07.08.2013 09:19

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Сообщение от Guardian of dill 2702761 "
Quote :
Posted by Artem: ..... That I had such an option (though very long ago , ten years ago ) , much like having a job and her boss , with life circumstances that the first job I had just stolen, I had to give a second , third, I finally put and sold , but replays tried to do for " garlic ", the size h70sm 120.110 . "

Decent work , the first and the 3rd just amazing , Respect !

Guardian of dill , You know something about a stolen work ?

Pavel 07.08.2013 15:18

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 2703881)
On the topic. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> Once one so young artist ( can not remember name ) which were chatting at the opening told the secret uspeha.On visited many countries still under the Soviets . "Quite simply , in France, I write like a Frenchman , an Italian in Italy as in England as an Englishman , and in Russia as a whole . Everywhere buy ."

A success in what? Buy it cheap.

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Сообщение от Keeper dill 2704071
Your idea is clear , but what about the views of the authors .. ?
For example, the Boar Petrov sells his work "boat" for one million rubles, and Berestova Xenia "Green", as Oleg Syzonenko his " Self-Portrait" for 1000 rubles .
" Who are the judges ? " .
According to the principle , you comrade Boar , whatever you .. Petrov, not that! Not buried ! You red price 5000 rubles , and you do not go to Xenia melancholy as Syzonenko in pessimism .. his face , like grass clippings should be no less than two thousand and give !

How are the classics - price is a product of the full non-resistance parties. Who bought , who has who has not bought , he has not. But a little expensive to buy , you must somehow be assured that you have. Upon the sale can happen bummer. Wild boar out of fashion.

Кирилл Сызранский 07.08.2013 15:28

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2704951)
boar out of fashion ....

and P. Tyryshkin - ever!
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Pavel 07.08.2013 15:30

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2704091)
Guardian of dill, this quote from 26.03.2010 , and its author that their endless mantra taldychet here for several years .

This is not a mantra , and the need for objectivity , but it is difficult to understand , it is easier to collect non-existent gossip, and boast existent masterpieces.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2704981)
and P. Tyryshkin - ever! <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

I'm not in vogue. For fashion to work for everything and Minotepa and assent of the COP.

Хранитель укропа 07.08.2013 22:31

The criterion of successful sales.
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Сообщение от MrVitt (Сообщение 1144061)
A specific criteria to be most likely can not. How to measure that? <! - ~ 1 ~ -> Margins? As pilchards in banks? 50%bushing - excellent for 150%- so do super? <! - ~ 1 ~ -> Not suitable means such an assessment. How can you estimate the cost of painting?
Measured by the number? So again, same thing. For some, and one picture per month - already a success, and someone 15 - a little ... And then five years later the one that sold in one month, is selling 15. So then, five years ago with one picture - it was a sales success or not?
You can still probably appreciate the fact that there is enough life sales. But here, the criteria are different, depending on who he loves to smear on bread ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
So it would probably be the most appropriate assessment of purely personal, fair in real time to a specific sale.

You can pick a different assessment tool. The total number of works sold to written (%). Very informative criterion.
There are artists based on sales of rare works with a high price.
You write, "How can you estimate the cost of painting?" - Just .. based on the spent material: canvas, paint brush, etc., except mental costs. I think you meant, how to form a picture of the price ..

Artoil-A 08.08.2013 00:50

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Сообщение от Keeper dill 2705581
Criteria of successful sales.

You can pick a different assessment tool. The total number of works sold to written (%). Very informative criterion.
There are artists based on sales of rare works with a high price.
You write, "How can you estimate the cost of painting?" - Just .. based on the spent material: canvas, paint brush, etc., except mental costs. I think you meant, how to form a picture of the price ..

This is not the case. Market artist realizes 99%of manufactured goods. This figure is there for hundreds of years. When working "to order" there is a problem of manufacturing "individual" order when the work done is not the customer buys. That is 1%and is the work.
 Only in the beginning can be in the top ten works of a few unsold works.
 This requirement and the tax authorities, and the requirements of the cost of materials and the cost of living. Previously, the tax authorities could be attributed to the materials 40%of revenue. Now we have to focus on writing off 10-20%of income, otherwise the work will not be profitable.
Hence the high demands on the ability to conduct marketing analysis, to comply with the requirements of painting technology.
The level of domestic gallery owners typically do not allow them to raise the artist from his entry-level, so the primary effort should be made by the artist.
And all the problems at once the artist promise to solve just crooks.
In practice, is a phased upgrade from level to level. Well if the artist will work as an apprentice at the market held the artist.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.08.2013 01:02

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2705791 "
Market artist realizes 99%of manufactured goods .

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2705791 "
Well if the artist will work as an apprentice at the market held on the artist.

Here, under the " market artist " means the artist from the market, from the market , with the fair, with the underground, from the street : " Flown, hurry , buy paintings ". <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

vodoleykina 08.08.2013 01:22

Artoil-A, Tax ....) )) This is so scary guys who can come in and prevent paint ( poetry , music, book ) ? ) Up to a certain amount in the account ( major purchases , money transfers ) the tax man is not interested at all , not every artist can earn the same amount . But if the artist does not pay taxes ... He allegedly unemployed? And it's a lot of inconvenience ) Just like artists get Schengen visa? <! - ~ 7 ~ -> pension, social. services and m ...


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