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Pavel 29.05.2009 14:36

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 403616)
Yes, you, my friend, yet expresses himself in French! Apparently all your messages - calked translated from French ...

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I admire Savrasov. And my compliments to - naturally. Yes, and my love - always natural. As you noticed, Savrasov any fool knows, but I can tell you is well worth it. The fools - they are so clever ... Incidentally, a fool, but critics say that this work Savrasov opened a whole epoch in the history of Russian landscape. Hence the repetition. Copyright repetitive - always had the right to exist. In good authors - they are unique! Look, your favorite Malevich, too nashtampoval black, yes, and reds ... However, there is in each repetition - the greatness of the universe !!!!!!!

Where did you get that I do not like rooks and Savrasova.Ya did not say that. I am sorry that the man he was weak. Repetition is a sign that the artist can not or do not want to go on the difficult path of creativity. You can give the example of Monet who worked in the same path of the landscape and created many masterpieces. We artists sometimes comes out a masterpiece, but before the next run of the average long again ... It knows that someone is constantly working. It worked all the Impressionists, and in general a feature peculiar to the French. A Savrasov by life circumstances showed weakness. That I had in mind.

Buscador 29.05.2009 15:37

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 407726)
can be cited the example of Monet who worked in the same path of the landscape and created many masterpieces. We artists sometimes comes out a masterpiece, but before the next run of the average long again ... It knows that someone is constantly working. It worked all the Impressionists, and in general a feature peculiar to the French. A Savrasov by life circumstances showed weakness. That I had in mind.

Well, let Claude Monet worked not only as a landscape ... He preferred to work in plein-air - is yes. I think that he still preferred to plot the picture ... As for the masterpieces, they were not created - they were not before. They worked because they thought it necessary, wrote for Salon because it was necessary ... generally had their own, each with their lives (who are very difficult, who does not). And you never get a speech the same Monet that he allegedly created a masterpiece. Conversely, persistent doubts .... And through them - perfection. But fame and recognition - they are somewhere in nevedamoy gave ... and well, if living, but basically after ...
A masterpiece .... If you have created at least one (and not much happens) - honor and praise.

Pavel 03.06.2009 08:54

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Know Monet. Maybe even in French? But what Rooks? Savrasov your favorite. This means he was not Monet masterpieces on this or he had not told anyone? What is a masterpiece you've read? Will tell.
Do you think how much does this work?

Buscador 03.06.2009 10:46

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 414576)
Do you know Monet. Maybe even in French? But what Rooks? Savrasov your favorite. This means he was not Monet masterpieces on this or he had not told anyone? What is a masterpiece you've read? Will tell.

After reading this a long time sitting and thinking - how to answer? And I realized that you just need to send (in the sense to send) all of my previous posts. Read carefully and only what is written there.
As for the French, then, unfortunately, failed to achieve the required scale. But, you know, I have enough of the other three languages for full communion.
And my favorite artists, if you are interested, are - Vasily Surikov and Valentin Serov, and OA Renoir and Edgar Degas.

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 414576)
How do you think how much does this work?

Commercialism your interests and radiates outward. Do not you aspire to as "filthy lucre".

Pavel 03.06.2009 16:14

Why do I seek, I know myself. That I read and write to you.
It's good that you like someone else besides Savrasov, but for some reason you do not like that and I like many different artists. You are so watered me and what I see, your avatar strangely reminiscent of Malevich. This is not good, pretending not to be like, should be original. What about still life. What price? You are such a connoisseur.

Кирилл Сызранский 03.06.2009 16:17

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 415466)
your avatar strangely reminiscent of Malevich. This is not good

Why?
Malevich-expensive artist.
You yourself say:
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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 415406)
Prices luchshe all determine the quality. Amateur odd job differs from the masterpieces at the cost.


Pavel 03.06.2009 16:41

And what Savrasov? Where is the logic? I think it is not well under Malevich Malevich.
I wanted to say: "different costs. If not different, so this fan a great artist, like Van Gogh.

Buscador 04.06.2009 10:53

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 415466)
Why do I seek, I know myself. That I read and write to you.
It's good that you like someone else besides Savrasov, but for some reason you do not like that and I like many different artists. You are so watered me and what I see, your avatar strangely reminiscent of Malevich. This is not good, pretending not to be like, should be original. What about still life. What price? You are such a connoisseur.

Perhaps I'll start with the end ... I never considered myself a connoisseur, but only with their views on certain issues. Cash equivalents are not given work and not going to give. This section, how much it costs. Speaking at this forum, I do not pretend to that, but I do not think that I am at someone similar. As for my work, it is called "Conversation with Casimir, and it's just banter, seeming to me quite original.
Nowhere and never wrote to you that I do not like what you like many different artists. Is your right. I just did not like (naplyuyte) that you are all taught how to work with the artist, but as no ...
And the last. What am I watered you? I just do not always understand your allegory: - "That I read and write to you." That's trying to "enter "...:)

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 415476)
The report from Pavel
Prices luchshe all determine the quality. Amateur odd job differs from the masterpieces at the cost.

Prices often determines those who are currently engaged in an artist and how seriously. And the quality can be secondary. A amateur forgery is just different quality.

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 415586)
But what Savrasov? Where is the logic?

Logic is not ... Savrasov and all is well - until now in the Tretyakov Gallery.
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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 415586)
I think it is not well under Malevich Malevich.

You flattered me
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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 415586)
I wanted to say: "different costs".

You flattered me again.

Pavel 04.06.2009 17:08

You forget how to say that I have a lot of French people, so it's natural because they are my teachers, but I itself. In art, the most important thing to be at no one, like the original, let it be at first sight worse-будующее will tell, but be afraid of borrowing and the similarities. It is immediately apparent to experienced specialists.
I have no one to teach, and speak for and defend their point of view.
I am sure, based on the French experience that artists and dealers are much more profitable to do business and work, not counting on a narrow elite stratum, and as soon as more democratic. More collections, the more customers and sales.
This still life of Edouard Manet, Impressionist chapter.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.06.2009 17:12

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 417566)
but afraid of borrowing and the similarities. It is immediately apparent to experienced specialists.

You're not afraid of borrowing and shozhestv. :)

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 417566)
but I have mine

O! I do not like jokes. I asked all of them make you nervous. I myself
State Board of fear. What indeed? I like that! I do not look any
for whom ... I tell everyone: "I myself know myself."
(c)

Pavel 04.06.2009 17:54

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 417576)
You're not afraid of borrowing and shozhestv. :)

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O! I do not like jokes. I asked all of them make you nervous. I myself
State Board of fear. What indeed? I like that! I do not look any
for whom ... I tell everyone: "I myself know myself."
(a)

I do not understand.: Confused:
Think that might defend his opinions are not humble?: Shy:

Кирилл Сызранский 04.06.2009 17:58

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 417636)
I do not understand. : confused:
Think that might defend his opinions are not humble? : shy:

No, normally ...
Just like a text view. He gave a quote for comparison. : D

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 417566)
I have no one to teach, and speak for and defend their point of view.

But sometimes your statements sound like sermons.
By celebrities, as they say ...

Pavel 04.06.2009 18:16

Let us return to our sheep. Order. to unleash the artist need?

Кирилл Сызранский 04.06.2009 18:30

Pavel, your message above 388th in the subject How to unleash the artist.
I think that among the nearly four hundred messages, you can find a few tips. What do you think?

Art-lover 04.06.2009 19:04

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 417666)
Let us return to our sheep. Order. to unleash the artist you need?

Good shepherd? : confused:;)


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