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artcol 16.07.2010 10:41

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1196052)
When were God-fearing? Until 1917? Then why all the priests put up against the wall immediately after 1917? And do not tell me that it did foreigners (including the Latvian riflemen and Jews).

MB priests put to the wall Russian peasants?
Priests put to the wall for two reasons: Robbery (of grain to the Soviets) and the monopolization of power. Through the first resolved the second question.

Shl My remark was not about that.

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 1196062)
And now the divine blasphemous. :mad:

People - sheep, they always need a shepherd. The main question is: who will shepherd.

Аркадий 16.07.2010 10:58

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1196072)
MB priests put to the wall of the Russian peasants?

And the peasants in the chisle.T.n. poor - in podalyayuschem most asocial elements, a village pyan.No mostly of course rEvolyutsionnye sailors and lumpen-proletariat.

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1196072)
People - sheep, they always need a shepherd. The main question only: Who will be the shepherd, and not on higher matter, or "isms".

Do not obobschat.Esli You need a shepherd, this does not mean that he needs a rest.

Konstantin 16.07.2010 11:20

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Сообщение от Ruff (Сообщение 1196092)
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MB priests put to the wall of the Russian peasants?
And the peasants in the chisle.T.n. poor - in podalyayuschem most asocial elements, a village pyan.No mostly of course rEvolyutsionnye sailors and lumpen-proletariat.

At least they do not interfere. The revolution is not as circles was supported by the broad masses. That's the paradox - in an Orthodox country blew Orthodox churches have survived only on that did not have explosives.
Again, stories about the collections of icons, absolutely calm burned them or used as consumables for teaching art.
There were of course and then the devotees, or have not survived to the icons above the gates of the Kremlin, which has recently found. But this is obviously unity.
What in the dry residue?
Or consider that there was an inexplicable paradox, or to think about: "Was there a belief in Russia before 1917"?

artcol 16.07.2010 11:31

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1196102)
At least they do not interfere. The revolution is not as circles was supported by the broad masses. That's the paradox - in an Orthodox country blew Orthodox churches have survived only on that did not have explosives.
Again, stories about the collections of icons, absolutely calm burned them or used as consumables for teaching art.
There were of course and then the devotees, or have not survived to the icons above the gates of the Kremlin, which has recently found. But this is obviously unity.
What in the dry residue?
Or consider that there was an inexplicable paradox, or to think about: "Was there a belief in Russia until 1917"?

Constantine, why answer the question "whether it was" not quite sure what faith?

Konstantin 16.07.2010 11:39


artcol 16.07.2010 11:44


Маруся 16.07.2010 11:50

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1196102)
Or consider that there was an inexplicable paradox, or to think about: "Was there a belief in Russia before 1917"?

What paradox? Atheism to be part of public policy. Judge for yourself how convenient - and the commandment not to be obeyed. "Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal" - this is not about the Bolsheviks. They, as we know, there were other slogans. The church is just sooo prevented these slogans to be implemented.

Konstantin 16.07.2010 11:54


Маруся 16.07.2010 12:10

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1196152)
That is to cure people of vodka could not, but to change faith to atheism could. Is that easier? Or do not want anything to change it - atheism is already present, and the rituals performed out of habit.

Conscious of atheism, in my opinion, should not be confused with an imposed - are two big differences.
Out of habit, or not performed ceremonies - it is also very individual. But what's wrong with good habits? It is no coincidence they say: "The habit - second nature."

dedulya37 16.07.2010 12:47

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1196102)
revolution as not circles was supported by the broad masses.

You are wrong.
Resistance was full. But how could resist?
Here I come to you armed and "his" Colt "to equate the rights of" your family before your eyes. Support You are then a revolution or not? You obviously do not.
But your neighbor, seeing all this support with pleasure, not realizing that he was next.
Revolution supported the proletariat, which "had nothing to lose but their chains", aptly put it.
And if the gold hung on chains, backed the proletariat would then Utopians?


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