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uriart 07.04.2014 12:28

acetate, drag the segment of modern research Islands beyond.
There is also seen a tug of potential buyers in the new institutions of examinations.

Say old discredited.
And here we are new, we'll going to do very well and very honestly.
Come to us all!

тата 07.04.2014 13:22

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 3075411)
acetate, drag the segment of modern research Islands beyond. There is also seen a tug of potential buyers in the new institutions of examinations.
Say old discredited . And here we are new , we'll going to do very well and very honestly . Go to all of us !

That's what I thought, as it is not .... Especially now, organized a new expert institution - only learned the day before. Just in conversation and it was about discrediting existing expert organizations.

Магнолия 07.04.2014 13:52

acetate, right in the theme!
Today in TV news from Petersburg to actively protect the values ​​show views of the Russian Museum and the equipment necessary to identify the originals.

Маруся 07.04.2014 14:15

The opinion of counsel Vasilyev ...

But Roschin , fear is wrong.

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Сообщение от Artem; 3075181"
If this story will end in favor of Andrey Vasilyev , then , I think , will soon be submitted to the police more than a dozen lawsuits against the Russian art historians, who are engaged in examining the pictures

Nothing of the kind is : Basner judged not for fraud in connection with obviously false expert opinion , and as a mediator in a bad deal that it stupidity or arrogance refused ( rudely ) to back off . Business - personal art history .
Which of sense for our market expertise? - Dirt more responsibility still - no

I think that even the new organization will not help : all well-known experts have common names , and new , I'm afraid to bring up will not soon - all TRP pass !

sergejnowo 07.04.2014 15:23

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 3075501)
equipment, allowing to identify the originals.

I wonder what kind of equipment is that?

Hopefully, the type of job to her tray piiiip .... and the display shows the SCRIPT!
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Магнолия 07.04.2014 16:06

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Сообщение от sergejnowo; 3075631"
I wonder what kind of equipment is that?
Hopefully , the type of job to her tray piiiip .... and the display shows the SCRIPT !

Unfortunately , the situation is rather stupid .
Service ( with a large -scale scanning resolution) is the basis of scans of museum exhibits . Upon returning from visiting the exhibition, all "things" are checked - whether fraud .
Of course, all , as always, at the mercy of the people concerned .

Artem 07.04.2014 16:36

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 3075531)
The opinion of counsel Vasilyev ...

 


Nikita Semenov consultant, he is not a lawyer Vasilyeva - lawyer Peter

K-Maler 07.04.2014 18:33

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Сообщение от Maroussia ; 3075531"
: Basner judged not for fraud in connection with obviously false expert opinion , and as a mediator in a bad deal that it stupidity or arrogance refused ( rudely ) to back off . Business - personal art history .

Sorry, it is judged for outright fraud she saw two pictures , knew two of them and their oral " friendly " gave confirmation to the person who relied on her judgment ( Shumakov ) . Ie at a time when it confirmed as the work of painting Shumakov Grigorieva , she knew that the same is in the timing , as she participated in the reception of this collection in the Museum and saw her there. Forget a spectacular and quite big picture impossible. You can forget drawing, watercolors , graphic works of small details , but the work is well-known author of this size and decoration forget museum workers , occupies the vanguard impossible. Can only require clarification and comparison or anything like that ( those - examination , etc.). She was arrested and why - she saw two works and the museum could not remember .

uriart 07.04.2014 19:24

K-Maler, what does not could not remember ?
30 years ago she was a member of the Commission for acceptance of the collection. Saw , yes. Remember no obligation .
But the work was kept in the graphics department and access to it was not.
Yes, so can anyone throw mud for what he is and that when he saw .
This Vasiliev himself to blame . Believe in his own infallibility . And now, looking guilty. Most had to be used to check everything and do not rely on anyone .
And now suddenly remembered !

Питер-С 07.04.2014 19:47

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 3075531)
Basner judged not for fraud in connection with obviously false expert opinion , and as a mediator in a bad deal

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 3075721)
Sorry, it is judged for outright fraud ....

I agree with the K-Maler. Maroussia is not right ...
Many times the source is quoted - Yu Kolennikova investigator about the cause of the arrest E.Basner ( See his direct speech here since 1 51)

And you can read in Kommersant here.


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