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Магнолия 13.10.2012 11:22

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Сообщение от Magnolia , 2294031"
In accordance with the purpose of this topic , it is necessary to find the image these principles .
Friends, help me, please !

Today, the vast majority of the usual list " A, B, C , ...", not wanting to think of any or find out why the letters attributed to the number one , two ... bypassed the letter " B" and left it at all without i_s_chisleniya . Make looking in dictionaries.

I tried to imagine how this could be the fact. It turned out not quite simple judgment , claiming disclosure of ancient secrets.
Writing this reflection spawned reading, as they say, " an amateur ." About to put down in the diary as " code development."

Still it took to thinking about the image of the natural principle of the "Direction" , which can be extremely simple as road signs, and unimaginably unavailable as a thought about the purpose of existence.

Fed 13.10.2012 12:21

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Yes , it is hard to guess if the number system Cyrillic took the Greek version , and there is a beta ( vita ) for twos , one letter , and is written as "B" in Cyrillic.

And in Glagolitic icon -books - in line 2.
So the more "old", with an appropriate icon for Sound B is different from the Greek , with no problems assigned it number 2 . Spitting on a "code of development."

A proceeding on these fantastic way - then what to do with the loss - live - M - notation for numbers , too, did not like, as well as B?
Where in Cyrillic delos 60? Mystery. http://smiles.dolf.ru/dolf_ru_145.gif
Well, about 700, and do not say.

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Сообщение от Magnolia , 2295101"
I tried to imagine how this could be the fact. It turned out not quite simple judgment , claiming the disclosure of ancient secrets.

http://smiles.dolf.ru/dolf_ru_039.gif

Дилетант 13.10.2012 20:23

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Сообщение от Magnolia, 2192181"
writing the last part of the reflection of life on Earth under the title "The Evolution of Right", I went back to the first page to double-check my conceptual design of the gospel. It was then that a new section, "No letter word." And along with it the idea to fill the alphabetical table of the principles of natural images, that is, the fundamental properties of Mira.

After reading the first sentence of this milestone work (by the way: nothing, if I - in their simplicity - continue to use punctuation marks?), I long could not help thinking that such arguments have heard somewhere. In the second sentence (reading and comprehension which was given too oh, so easy), it hit me!
This is the same - it is! Svirid P. Golokhvastov, barber from ditches. The monologue of the dating scene with the parents Prony Prokopovna.
"When a man is not like at all, because the only one, and the other was, and his mind is not for dancing, and the device itself, for decoupling svogo existence, for the information of manners, and when such a person, if he vcheny to rise wisely its the clouds his mind and there is even higher Lavra Bell Tower, and when he studova would look down on people because they seem to him such tiddly-tiddly, still as a mouse ... sorry, Chris ... because it's Man! And one that, he is also a man, nevcheny, but ... why? Well it's a very, very, Yes, yes, but - no! "

I always thought it was - the ceiling! As it turns out - there is no limit to perfection!
Well, now I can be: a) blamed b) ostracize, c) declare the Chaldeans, and log on tram tracks progress, d) ban, finally.
 But the other way to stop this refined torture, I do not see. I - being pampered, sophisticated, physically unstable, I can take the entire composition part.yacheyki not even a pinch of snuff ... or damage to put ... inadvertently ...

K-Maler 13.10.2012 21:17

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 2292651"
Magnolia, here is the information for you :

I looked on the internet pictures of this exhibition. Thing is, the meaning of the same .... depending on what you mean by meaning .... Same text (what philosophers call the text) is, but he can tell the meaning is not the one claimed by the authors ...
 
 Afternoon with a lantern looking for the truth ...
Forum is empty, are familiar with each other people ...
Now here's the Magnolia ... Possible, and it will go away.
On the new man attacked with yuk ... Shame on you, gentlemen, critics , dealers and collectors.
(I do not about you, Constantine) .

Магнолия 13.10.2012 22:58

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2295151)
Spitting on a "code of".


Fed, let's go back to that record when the alphabetical table will be visible to you.
Do not rush me, please.

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2295151)
Where in Cyrillic delos 60?
Mystery.

Well, about 700, and do not say.


Time will come and take a look at the "live", and 60, and 700, and many more very interesting.
None of the apparent I will not hide.

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Сообщение от Dilettante, 2295581
But the other way to stop ...
I can not see.


Try to heal!
Not deafen themselves with their own bark.

Pavel 14.10.2012 08:56

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2295691)
I looked on the internet pictures of this exhibition. Thing is, the meaning of the same .... depending on what you mean by meaning .... Same text (what philosophers call the text) is, but he can tell the meaning is not the one claimed by the authors ...
 
 Afternoon with a lantern looking for the truth ...
Forum is empty, are familiar with each other people ...
Now here's the Magnolia ... Possible, and it will go away.
On the new man attacked with yuk ... Shame on you, gentlemen, critics , dealers and collectors.
(I do not about you , Constantine ).

Well you must have fun and somehow , and then overgrown with oil and tsifiri thereof and for each we see the enemy < - ~ 11 ~ ->

Магнолия 14.10.2012 09:33

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2295691)
It's a shame, gentlemen, critics, dealers and collectors.

(I do not about you, Constantine).


I think that the prosecution more often refers to a concentrated vaccine as a dilettante.

Others are occasionally bounce can take reasonable novelty.

Магнолия 03.11.2012 14:06

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Сообщение от K-Maler; 2295691"
day with a lantern looking for the truth ...

I recently received a letter from a friend (mathematics), whose opinion I value immensely. In it, except "all very interesting and talented," the lines: "I was very difficult to say anything (formulate) substantially affected you questions (topics). All that is written in your essay, to my mind (as I can understand that), - very associative. Many, depending on their mindset and training, it is of interest ... and their associations, which do not necessarily coincide with yours. As I understand it, is that you write, located at the intersection of science, philosophy (and theology), and ... literature. Your work echoes the "gematria of the word" and, even with the Kabbalah. There is still a lot of questions, such as the semantics of the word depends on the context of sentence in which the word is used, not the word itself? may be that I was not entirely (or not) in your stream of research, all the more that your work is "The Evolution of Rights" I is not available. "
Entries in the members of the forum on "Images of the alphabet" (psychopathic antics - do not count) show that the associative ", depending on the mindset and training" is not only the interest but also the "irritation of mind disagreement." This is a very interesting phenomenon, which affects the development in all spheres of activities through a collective thought process, and therefore worthwhile for clarifying the difference between the image used and popular Word. Both are needed for the expression of thought and perception. "We are looking for the truth in the afternoon with a flashlight," as wrote new posts K-Mahler.

Once we touched the subject, when the controversial form of defending their views on the essence of the concepts of "phoneme" and "morpheme". Mosaic of poetry and prose shows that morpheme - a property used images and phoneme - demanded by the Word.
In the essay "Blago_darya" (in my diary entry titled "Essay for Zara") shows the phoneme "pet", involved in thinking "about the power of direction and a sense of voice," morpheme is known, the behavior of domestic cock, eager to sing every day, and morpheme religious image of the heavenly key words (spoken word - silver, unspoken - gold) in the hands of the saint, named Peter. People who are not familiar with the rhythm of village life, the rooster will associate with food. Atheists are not interested in symbolic names. Today, most people do not remember or understand the symbolism of any government during the day heralds the cock crow, Abraxas, any two celestial keys of St. Peter, or in the height of all the fabulous Golden Cockerel. Phoneme "pet" does not align with the idea of ​​government (except for Peter the Great), even with a smile when people ask me about the semantic thread between the "cock" and "loop".
I believe that one phoneme can be many morphemes reflecting face of one of hidden meaning. Associative - it produces about morphemes whirling thoughts, which is called by using the phoneme to the idea. Rendering image provides context.

I promised to put in the diary essay "Code Development", in which, as in other reflections, can not do without the image. Their key phonemes inspire readers association. This is useful for finding the most expressive paintings in alphabetical table because other images are born, as was the case when considering the principles of the triptych "filling" (diary entry "found the images in alphabetical table" with the essay "Key Images").

Магнолия 04.11.2012 22:25

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Сообщение от Magnolia , 2323881"
Once we have touched the issue, when in the form of defending their controversial views on the essence of the concepts of " phoneme " and " morpheme ". Mosaic of poetry and prose shows that morpheme - a property used images and phoneme - demanded words .

Please remind. Entry number 91

"I'm not confused , I want to understand! ... I did not get them mixed up !
In a dispute born truth , and we seem to be something born.
The idea expressed by the words of a letter and /or images.
On the mythological origins phonemes - record number 75, there we mentioned the god of sleep - morphine . In sleep there are no letters , only images .
Conclusion: thoughts are phonemes (when talking about a word) and /or morphemes (in the case of the image ), that is , phonemes and morphemes - it so_znaki (like " so_trudniki ", " so_tovarischi " ...) so good?

Магнолия 12.11.2012 13:22

relevance of the topic
 
On morphemes and phonemes very well seen on the site "Russian Journal" is an interesting commentary by Alexander Markov on Lacan as a theorist of the sacred. I quote it in full, to show the importance of the subject after "images of the alphabet" for contemporary art.

Scripture Lacan: no translation, no distortion
Alexander Markov
1.
In the just-published new book, Victor Mazin walks you through a series of important episodes of two books "seminar" of Jacques Lacan. "Lacan sees Freud's text dream - the text of Scripture" [1] and explains the quote: "Corruption, even oblivion text dreams mean so little that remains with us even though only one element, albeit uncertain, only the tip of the dreams, the shadow of his shadow, we can still give it meaning. For to us a message ". [2] Quote from Lacan is in excellent translation by A. Chernoglazova. Only one he introduces confusion: How do the images of the "tip" or "ghost shadows"? Should think that the shadow shade, being purely ephemeral suddenly thickens when we look at it, it suddenly becomes a relief, as up to this simple hint or a memory? Or just a dream is out of the shadows that come together in a relationship, and just pull the one shadow to the theater of shadows moved in our direction?
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The key here is the remark of the Holy Scriptures, which may be subject to distortions, but even a small part of it as a shrine can contextualize any and all missing fragments. This view of Scripture as a machine constant production of distinctions that will be played in order, even if the moments of "here and now" is constantly changing, can not be called trivial. We are used to the opposite view of Scripture: change even one letter leads to irreversible consequences. Scripture in such a case is a field in which the device is going to the world: it is enough to move any of the options in this field, as the present assembly will fail.
If we compare the representation of Scripture, which is the basis of the arguments Freud or Lacan, with our usual experience, that this view corresponds with its concept of copyright works, or rather on the work in which the author appears father figure. Father, signing his works, knows exactly what it means: in fact, the only motivation is to create works of expression of the knowledge that the Father, and so it is, and can be submitted upon request.
Such a father can not be compared with the plein air artist, but an artist salon, if we recall the known method to represent the artist as a connoisseur-turvy, making their pictures as some collection. All these images shops and salons, perspektivistskie canvas view the picture gallery, which is about to take place on art connoisseur, will be held as a shadow 'dreams of greatness shown in numerous painted a picture - this is the best indication of the expert-turvy, failed in sleep skill, and real and realizable dream znatochestva artist.
Exactly this name the Father znatochestve artist that immediately goes into creativity, writes Larry below: "phenomenon is called the Father is not so much a traumatic event as the decision by moving out of the deadlock of silence in other places. Castration - translation, go to that other place where begins around bottomless silence discharged my history ". [3] It turns out that if the recipient can only experience the feeling of castration, to get rid of the obsessive experience of another, the name of the Father is not just interpret the situation, but it turns out "solution" creative phenomenon. The translations, Name of Father breaks all desires, and thus creates this machine to represent the images, so that no desire engages with distortion, error, or a space, breaking a single garment of understanding.
Understanding this system is not the practice of identifying and moving to "another place", a place out of the picture of the world, of which only the picture of created zhnergiey desire. "The desire is translated into the Name of the Mother-Father. The metaphor of relocation, in place of the Act. Name of the Father of the law, the name of a dead father's things. " This explanation is not very accurate, given that the law - a synonym of Scripture. It turns out that the law already marks out the space where you will live, and where it will be dead, with the reality of the Father is alive or dead, we can find only in a dream, but it is this recognition and acknowledgment is held "name things."
Saying quite simply, bringing the matter to a word, name of the thing - this is the picture, as the name thing - a word with its meaning. That picture is not just a "name" thing, but every time it shows how this thing is different from other things, as this thing does not blind us, and not blind herself, getting in the usual sense of manipulative environment. So, because the Scripture can not be distorted, even though many of the words, phrases, pages of it are gone, many things have already sketched. Their lack of availability due to his mother's wish and production differences Father kills miluyuschim and restores all things, just by the law of association. And then have the artist's skill, the skill of thoughtful, understanding the meaning of metaphors, metonymies and transfers, legitimizing the use of stories, and restores it to the scripture of the state to its integrity.
2.
However, restoration of integrity in the mirror of narcissus, despite "polikefalii" multihead usual save all the words and letters, we find in another argument Lacan. The act of dreaming "reveals precisely the fundamental constituents of the perceived world, which make up the narcissistic relationship. The object is always organized in more or less the image of the subject's body. In the picture perception always hide reflection of the subject, its mirror image - that he gives this film its special quality, its momentum ". [4]
It turns out several interesting points. It turns out that the world is composed of the fundamental things that are closed to each other. It can be a space, time and other conditions of perception, but significantly, it is that they form a dense environment in which Scripture does not sound. Further, it appears that the subject is first processed into the body (and the body of the subject closest to it), then it affects the body, and then it becomes a normalized picture is produced as the result of discrimination.
It turns out that the words of Scripture literally written on the tablets of the heart, the body of the human soul, which sees itself as a reasonable, analytic, critical only in a dream, where possible, through metaphor, to identify with the subject order. While in practical life subject, became a speech already been captured by the skill, which is characteristic of the artist-Narcissa.
Fleeing from his narcissism, as from the finished form of speech, an artist himself becomes a mirror for each letter - and that is the inertia of "pattern of perception": not that the subject of admiring his reflection tempting for him, but that Each letter leaves a trace, leaving the inertia. And then even if some letters forgotten, blotted out, washed with water, the inertia of the object order to restore the whole of Scripture. This inertia is a dream world of objects, but in reality come true as a "special quality" as a special qualitating as a world of distinction.
And if the name of the Father in the life of the body remains the voice of the world, in a dream, it will be just the collapse of the world body. Just this body also disintegrates, as letter of Scripture fly and disappear, killed and carried into heaven, but rather wake to reassemble the Scriptures. Enough wake to correlate all previous experience experienced with authorization of that speech, which alone can about this experience. Far from everything you can tell right away, and also provides narration at once, but this retelling makes clear perception of real states as part of the Scriptures, and ethical choices - as you read this scripture.
3.
Mazin B. writes: "The perceived, imaginary picture of the reality of the dream breaks, and it may be said, pure, uncomplicated hallucinatory perception". [5] And then a quote from Lacan: "a holistic relationship with the represented person picture in one of the corners of which - if not a right - it always finds itself". [6] Signature in several parts of the picture - it is like a "trial" version of authenticity. We trust the product, and print - additional certifying that there are no circumstances invading forgery.
And the Scriptures - we understand it, because it is presented to us, it stands before us as a pattern, and we do not get tired, and we can safely see the entire gallery - to restore everything, including the missing passages of Scripture. Dream is suddenly becoming rest. Therefore explanation Mazin B. "Autograph always been in the picture" needs to be clarified: the autograph is not part of the picture idea, it is a plan of how the painting will be sold, this is the label, label, price tag, label vendor that is in continuous production of distinctions properly organized trade.
But hold on to the letter can then, as stated on the same page when "no one else who could say. This is the moment, which I call the entrance fool, because the subjects to which Freud appeals to play this role. " Jester here does not mean parodies Mockingbird. The point is that the imaginary clown destroys the illusion, the illusion of continuous production, showing a man by his non-productive I am.
Here, in mock situations in which the eye is "optical device" rather than a reflex reflector sleep and thought, and it turns out that every word of Scripture must be cared for, and the loss of even the slightest word killed the whole of Scripture. Whereas in a normal situation, reflections in the economy in which the paintings are sold all the time, because there is investment interest, there is a reflection, coming to the studio all the time drawing a painter, and a restoration of the text of Scripture.
Just as an artist does not put off the brush, and in every gesture, every sound of his silent attention, attracting the interest of a capital, rebuilt the Scriptures. This equity interest previously only dreamed of, but now there was the expansion of perception on the components, and not just a certificate held dream (fabulous item or association working in real life), but also the dream as evidence may be introduced as the productive life of the studio. Then the autograph, as the father's name will be a scripture, and the remaining signatures, samples, simply serve its spread.
4.
Specify the period of painting, in which it functions as Scripture for Lacan, and not as a dogmatic scripture znatocheskom-style, is not easy. Obviously, medieval painting, the next chapter of Scripture, is not fit this definition. If the activity is a picturesque kind of piety, the violation of the order of external piety is a sign that the Bible, the name of the Father, has not yet gained control of the world. That is the scripture, though contained in the book, is not powered, not realized his unique and inimitable power, power, is precisely the uniqueness. And as a free painting in Europe is already a rhetorical thought out composition, the main lines of interpretation which closes on rhetorical gesture, and so it is also can not be completely Scripture in this sense.
But art history search allows you to find parallels to what Lacan thought, especially in the study of images that are part of the same time several "programs": the biblical story, will donator, architectural program, plan the artist. This schizophrenia programs, best known in the art of the Renaissance, can be seen in a new, fresh look, thanks to advances Lacan.
But even more interesting, how to form a representation of the Scriptures through translations of Scripture. [7] There have been numerous cases where the transfer was seen as creation stories, like the production of reality, and not as interpretive practice. Therefore, there is a strange situation where the historical consciousness form a continuous tradition of interpretation, "feeling in history", clashed with this new historical consciousness that required to find "in the beginning", the biblical point of alpha, authorization for any held in the history of meaning.
For the first approach, Adam was a character on whose Fall should reflect (after appropriate training), and for the latter Adam was primarily a "wise man", so that each translation of the Scriptures are updated wisdom and omniscience of Adam. It was Adam, as well as any other authoritative biblical character, and then turns out to the Father, who maintains the authenticity of the inner experience of any reader.
It is clear that if the ratio of the Scriptures is a meditation, the need to control the terms of this meditation, the admission or non-admission to the withering sense requires trust to the text of Scripture, and is not intended to restore its lacunae. The text must be integrated, as an integral should be a geographical map or a financial statement. Whereas in the case of text, always composed, the produced right before our eyes, even though he was carried from the past - the simple attention to it is to fill all the gaps, if any accidental damage. This attention is the very articulate prochityvanie that makes any dream experience factory awaits us happy sense.
We talked about the Scriptures, the Holy basically going to talk in the next issue of the unacceptability column devoted to this time, "Critique of the Underground" Rene Girard.
Notes:
[1] Mazin, Victor. Oneyrokritika Lacan. SPb.: Aletheia, 2013. S. 83.
[2] Lacan, Jacques. Seminars: Prince. 2.: "I" in Freud's theory and in the technique of psychoanalysis. /Translated from French. A. Chernoglazova. Moscow: Gnosis-Logos, 1999. S. 180.
[3] Ibid. S. 114.
[4] Mazin, S. 96, Lacan, S. 239.
[5] Mazin, S. 94.
[6] Lacan, S. 238.
[7] This was the topic of my article: Markov, Alexander. Modern Greek translation of the Scriptures: the invention of historical reality. //Artikult, 2012, № 3 (in print, by grant 12-03-00482 RHF: objectivity, reliability and the fact that in the humanities early modern: a historical reconstruction and the way the reception).
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