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Магнолия 27.02.2013 11:17

Artoil-A, immensely grateful.
Read with rapt attention.

In many parts of the article I saw that I had researched theme "Images of the alphabet" - is to look at the same square (4 periods of evolution) of the nature of the question.

Konstantin 27.02.2013 12:27

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I have read with rapt attention .

These pearls have read with interest ?
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All in a geometric pattern seen his. But the symbolism that intentionally /unintentionally turned off inherent in uncomplicated picture turned it into a challenge to the forces of anti-Christian
Before you learn something new supposedly revered to this topic here on our forum: Square "by Malevich : who feels that , looking at the picture " [/URL]

Магнолия 27.02.2013 14:10

Konstantin, we just exactly in this thread and we are, and I respond to the question of the title theme. This topic has long been on my 'Show Supplement. " But what's important.

I believe that most reasoning confused the concept of God and Christianity, life and being, existence and reality. By nature of their limited opportunities every form their worldview mainly his chosen way. As a result of the Tower of Babel built misunderstanding.
But sometimes the "bulge" in common. For me, this point in the article have become figures of the words: "The stronger she came" to the vanishing point, but was restricted to zero. "But I changed to zero forms and went for 0 - 1." In other words, he went into a different reality, where there is a standard, its unit - the "black box." His "unit" of the new /different reality Malevich called "supermatizmom." And: "The film is written and set to" Last Futurist Exhibition "0.10" (December 1915 - January 1916). "
For my part, the point of contact - a system of building speech. (O1-10) - is a horizontal natural principles encoded letters. The zeros and nolyah tale special (described in one of the essays). Space "for zero" Malevich felt like blackness, and I - as closure properties of the evolution of the fourth period with the first (this is the essay "The Creation")

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/pictur...ctureid=131341

Moreover, I, like many other philosophers understand Christianity as a non-verbal ability to intuitively see the resolution difficult situation. A case in point of the pre-revolutionary times. Gestalt psychologists call this insight altered state of consciousness, and the other knowledgeable - a mystical vision of the Nazarenes.
Pay attention to the memories of Andrei Bely, "" Left "liberal critics noted the emergence of" Black Square "by" cheers "...... Andrew White wrote in his memoirs:
"... Once MO, putting me in front of two squares of Malevich's Suprematist (black and red) zaklokotal, spat, and seriously blurted voice lecture, severe:
History of painting and all these Vrubel to such squares zero!
He stood in front of the squares, just praying to them, and I was: Well, yes - two squares, and he explained to me at the time: looking at these squares (black and red), he experiences the fall of the old world: "You Look: everything breaks down "


In short, Konstantin, you and I have different information platforms.
In the theme of "Images of the alphabet," I offered to show the section of his book, "The mystical experience of the Nazarenes." The people did not respond. I'm talking about, other than imposing their worldview. Who wants to know - he will understand, others will perceive as nonsense. For the rest, and a black square - daub.

Konstantin 27.02.2013 16:14

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we just exactly in this thread and are ,

Well, you see - my head is spinning from these " ghosts and phantom pain " that say about the rest ?
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"The stronger she came " to the vanishing point, but did not go beyond zero "

You scared away from the forum all the normal people who are interested in painting.
After these texts make reply to this topic will not be serious people that we absolutely do not want.

Магнолия 27.02.2013 16:45

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2480781)
After such texts make reply to this topic will not be serious people that we absolutely do not want.


Let wishing to go on "Images of the alphabet."
It will be clear and a black square, and the article, quoted from the site "The movement of active people"

Коллекционер-любитель 27.02.2013 18:29

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"supermatizmom"

Dear Magnolia, you are very well noticed the name of the technique works by Malevich.

zarajara 27.02.2013 18:46

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Сообщение от amateur collector (Сообщение 2480891)
Dear Magnolia, you are very well noticed the name of the technique works by Malevich .

Magnolia just made ​​a reservation, I guess.
Yet Malevich called his work supremum automatically.
And you , amateur collector, you mean?
There is a certain " matizm " and the direction ( not technology ) Malevich - "super- matizm "?
That is an excellent matizm ? :D> :)>


P.S. In fact, art history - a science and like any science requires careful handling of the terms . For fans of the requirements are the same.

Магнолия 27.02.2013 19:22

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Magnolia simply state , I believe .

Dear Zara ! If someone made ​​a reservation , it was not me.

The fact that the double quotation marks are not accepted. Hence the misunderstanding.
Quote began - "The stronger ......." and ended - Malevich called " supermatizmom ."

I think the author made ​​a reservation . I know that Malevich called supremacist , also noticed distortion and surprised, but to make changes in the quote did not.

Super and Suprema concept similar but different. In mathematics, the word " Suprema " is out of bounds conceivable series of numbers. Moreover, in both directions - and below the lower and above the upper limit.
I believe that the correct Malevich called his failure " in unreality " - in supremnost . But , perhaps, it could be stipulated in conversations because of the unusual to the term . Do not judge. Just copied the quote. Can check - see link in the record number 342 .

Artoil-A 27.02.2013 20:08

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 2480971)
 
I know that Malevich's Suprematist called ...



Rather Suprematism associated with memes generated Kabbalah.
And I think this is a promising area of ​​research ...

Магнолия 27.02.2013 22:07

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memes generated Kabbalah

Memes Kabbalah as elements of cultural and genetic information to emphasize human numerically position in the system of natural principles , suitable for many languages. In essence, this "arithmetic" of Pythagoras. The word " a_rifm_e_tika " makes sense ne_rifmuemost ie ne_povtoryaemost . Repeatability of letters, position , number, coordinate system ...
I believe that memes Kabbalah can not lead one to supremnost by definition Supremo .

I guess Kazimir Malevich (1879 - 1935) , as well as many other creative people, lured philosopher Henri Bergson (1859 - 1941) in general and the work of 1907 " Creative Evolution ," in particular, provokes questioning of the meaning of life and art.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.02.2013 22:25

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The word "a_rifm_e_tika" makes sense ne_rifmuemost ie ne_povtoryaemost.
Repeatability of letters, position, number, in the system of coordinates ...

Arithmetic - from the Greek.
words άριθμος - number and τέχνη - art.
 
:D>

Магнолия 27.02.2013 22:33

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Arithmetic - from the Greek.
words άριθμος - number and τέχνη - art.


Possible and so, knowing that the number of non-repeatability.
I am the meaning.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.02.2013 00:03

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2481031)
And I think this is a promising area of ​​research ...

- Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. (a) :D>

Chvedovski 28.02.2013 20:51

Malevich created several variants of the black square and in addition there are thousands of copies of the work of other "painters" in the expensive part.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.02.2013 23:36

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Сообщение от Chvedovski (Сообщение 2481931)

Malevich created several variants of a black box

Known today are four:

two in the State Tretyakov Gallery and one in the timing and the GoE.


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