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dedulya37 21.05.2009 08:17

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 396106)
express their "FE"! different ways you can. in a particular case Nedogonov is prettier In my opinion did, what art wellness fitness. less anger, more humor, no insults in private address. Here problem syumorom?

The views are different. Yes, and problems with humor like no.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.05.2009 08:22

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Сообщение от Sergeyitch (Сообщение 396136)
Confirmation that once you think of Malevich's square is a masterpiece of modern stupidity and strange (and nasty) you like - is not true.

So all this Nedogonov and makes with the goal of all "amateur" Malevich smeared with this "artist's shit".
Neuzhli not clear?

SAH 21.05.2009 08:23

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Сообщение от Sergeyitch (Сообщение 396136)
I join. It's time to stop it,

Correctly
Art-lover, wrote, and what to do, has exactly to write. Anger there I can not see, stiffness yes.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.05.2009 08:39

That's the theme of the party.
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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 390066)
PosOdyat whether Erofeeva?

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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 323676)
The role of Russian artists in the world art scene "less than pixel»

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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 315046)
"Artist's shit" from the Tar Catherine

And the last of his subject.
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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 358276)
Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

By the way, he wrote it.
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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 358276)
I - a new man at the forum, can therefore immediately rushed to the eyes that unhealthy paranyalny passions, which led to a discussion of Hirst's art, and which - truly repentant - himself succumbed.

Write something good, positive, or at least useful, cognitive about art, about painting, that it would be interesting for the forum for its members and guests.
Do not like Russian avant-garde and modern art, write about the Wanderers and about the Russian realistic painting.
Why raise over again "controversial" topics?

Glasha 21.05.2009 09:35

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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 395566)
For particularly critical: sometimes my posts are a joke

For particularly critical: sometimes posts Art-lover 'and there are just a joke.


And somehow all this is understood even without special explanation, however:
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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 395566)
At the same time I saw (on the list "odobryantov" at the bottom of post), if not thoughtful people can relate to what is read. Inspire them to be any heresy. The threshold of criticality - zero point, zero-tenths.

Threshold sense of humor - zero point, zero-tenths.



(watching from the outside, that's very noticeable --
Oh, I know that draw to a head again, and now fly in the next .... in cans and jars without ..,
but only in good faith continue:
- Feel that tight, squeezing the number of "odobryantov" and "spasibistov" at the bottom of other people's posts
(not to loved as a child? For life? Here on the forum?)
so can we all put it - is desired, cherished - a lot of "thank you" (in other words, to try his "love"), and we get a virtual (fortunately), kindly interlocutor?

- For some reason I was harmful? Because my bike was not. Now, I immediately begin to become kinder.
Postman Pechkin
)

Buscador 21.05.2009 10:04

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 396156)
So all this Nedogonov and makes with the goal of all "amateur" Malevich smeared with this "artist's shit".
Neuzhli not clear?

I still think that "amateurs" Malevich's nothing to do with it. You're so vain - like health. Just this "art" Mr. Nedogonov believes (as I thought) - degenerative. What corresponds to a given topic. All in full compliance ...

Кирилл Сызранский 21.05.2009 10:14

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 396416)
I still think that "amateurs" Malevich's nothing to do with it.

I'm such a conclusion made from this.
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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 395566)
But perhaps the Black Square by Malevich? ...

Perhaps it is also true. After all, as Malevich's square does not contain anything other than black paint, and "Bank of muck artist" does not contain anything other than the dermis. This world of the artist once felt like his.

It is possible to make such a conclusion?

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 396416)
You're so vain - like health.

Well, thank you, allowed ... :)

Art-lover 21.05.2009 22:33

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 396106)
express their "FE"! different ways you can. in a particular case Nedogonov is prettier in my opinion did, than art wellness fitness. less anger, more humor, no insults in private address. Here problem syumorom?

It would be logical to understand that the game goes before judge and hand out yellow cards. Games N. not pull on the format of academic debate, because normal controversy suggests that - at least - respect for facts, the ability to hear the arguments and the desire to understand the merits of the case.
What, unfortunately, is not observed. This was tried repeatedly to specific examples, I'm tired already. All the same, to no - there is a feeling that one is dealing not with a living person, but with a robot-terminator.
"Nedogonovka" - this type of shooter game Doom, where the hero has one goal - to run with a gun and destroy and degenerates monsters. Initially it and funny, but when the hero, struck up, begin to shoot at anything that moves, then, eventually, it becomes no laughing matter, and not to respect the beauty elokventsii. : eek:: mad:

With regard to transitions to the individual, then remember the Sergeant's widow, who flogged herself.
If a person is constantly engaged in fraud, that he himself refers to as tricksters - and it does not change, whether it be maps, facts or ideas.
Who is a fascist ideology that defines itself as a fascist, what he himself has not said on this occasion.
If humor is manifested not only as to someone or something to misrepresent and smear in the city, the "joker" he flaunt as mudslinger, and then he does not help.
Is that the wish success to the approval of favorites in his own capacity.

яня 21.05.2009 23:13

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 393036)

Kantor is not an art critic, he art practices, and more than successful - one of the most popular in the world of today's Russian artists. At a recent "Sotheby's, where selling Russian paintings, a dozen works, many times exceeding the declared value, only one was dated fresh" zero "- the work of Cantor;

From this I like figure! That something you do not know how made the sensational sale at auction? : p
An honest person of your userpics said that did yes - no!

mezon 22.05.2009 00:15

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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 397866)
It would be logical to understand that the game goes before judge and hand out yellow cards.

I was then asked to be simpler, and you with humor to everything for me.
  So here's just a joke-humor composed:
    He made his way somehow ranehonko to the museum one wag in the angle between the masterpieces put such a lot and sat himself on the sidelines to watch.
A little later, began to gather intellegentsiya to see masterpieces. He walks around, staring ... Here are just smell otkudato incomprehensible. Taki discovered a strange object and stared at him with black squares. What is it? Is this a new word in a lively-pisi? Let talkat any clever ideas here and the press arrived, ... A joker who laughed softly at first, as I have them intellegentov! " too, and he began to think what he is something extraordinary squeezed - chest arched proudly to announce his name to the whole world. ... under the rays of spotlights Mr. flowed, it became more stink. People really began to think what it was. Let's look around at each other, and remove a nobody, a range of intellectuals ... - Let's blow a little of himself in the hope that the wind will blow away. And the effect of this reverse turns! Flies smell, multiply ..... not yet reached the farthest corners of the museum ... Technician on duty and, instinctively experienced workers of the museum, immediately understood what was happening, grabbed Savoca, a rag and swept this perishable masterpiece slight movement of professionals. The people sighed with relief, smiled, began to diverge from other rooms ...
That's just the smile vanished from the face of the Joker: (pity him: good was a joke, stinking ...


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