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Артём 03.09.2013 11:44

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Сообщение от artcol; 2741871 "
Artem , with no plans - anywhere. And talk to . It's just a preliminary steps .

No plans anywhere .

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Сообщение от artcol; 2741871 "
on this page there is a table showing the money supply data .

I'm not talking about money . A lot of rich people , but to the art of " teach ," educate them . We have a culture that does not care . Not surprised when I see pictures of millionaires from the embankment on the walls. In many other countries, not better. This notion of mentality. I personally by their customers a lot of time spent telling , showing , explaining , went with them to show drinking coffee and not only. Then - yes , there were some kind of metamorphosis , and people started buying, I kind of opened them to the new drug. But that's just f education, which is not enough .

Магнолия 03.09.2013 12:43

Artem, on the one hand you are right , separating the "pictures of the promenade," from his pictures , but on the other hand, we know that in St. Petersburg sell his paintings "on board " (a place on Nevsky Prospekt between houses number number 32 and 34) are very significant and artists, because it is faster than the sale of gallery .
Underground also initially exhibited and sold " off the ground ."

Артём 03.09.2013 12:56

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Artem , on the one hand you are right , separating the "pictures of the promenade," from his pictures , but on the other hand, we know that in St. Petersburg sell his paintings "on board " (a place on Nevsky Prospekt between houses number 32 and number 34) are very significant and artists, because it is faster than the sale of gallery .
Underground also initially exhibited and sold " off the ground ".

Magnolia , I also was standing on the waterfront, with a lot of this started , I'm not talking about that , I was just talking about the low-grade product , when the good paint is not being spent , and buy paint enamel hozmage and it's not from poverty , but from the attitude toward the case. Placed directly into 10 " canvases " and painted over the blue sea, the next day , and the foam has dried you can do. Birch trees, boats made ​​shaft and manage to sell it and the same shaft lies, noodles - live on the rich . And just like that I 've seen on the walls of people who would be ashamed of this, and no , it is even decorates the interior .
Yeah, I do not know. Let the artists thrive , who as you can , but problems. I'm just about the buyers , they are almost there , because of the low level of culture . Money does not talk about the person .

Buscador 03.09.2013 12:58

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Сообщение от iosif (Сообщение 2742661)
You are right, of course . I'm oversimplifying , meaning - all other things being equal, an artist with the marketer will always be better off than without the artist marketer. Their correct relationship - a topic for another conversation .

Here totally agree with you. Just artists often want to " lift " the price is much faster than it can offer the market . And the theme of the artist and the correct relationship between ( marketing ) is the " stumbling block " of relations of the art market ...

Pavel 03.09.2013 13:16

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 2742951)
Here totally agree with you . Just artists often want to " lift " the price is much faster than it can offer the market . And the theme of the artist and the correct relationship between ( marketing ) is the " stumbling block " of relations of the art market ...

The price goes up when the picture want to buy a couple of people , not just one . This does not happen , there is no lifting .

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Сообщение от iosif (Сообщение 2742661)
Of course, you're right.
I'm oversimplifying, meaning - all other things being equal, an artist with the marketer will always be better off than without the artist marketer.
Their correct relationship - a topic for another conversation.

 
Tell me, what did you study foreign experience, which one?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2742121)
In this forum, the discussion of individual participants are not welcome.

Who would have said, and still your friend in London <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Peter 03.09.2013 13:49

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 2742941)
I just about customers, they are almost there, because of the low level of culture.
Money does not talk about the person.

This is the main and most formidable aspect of lack of demand for art and creation of a secondary market.
Art DO NOT CARE mass.

Grigory 03.09.2013 13:58

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Сообщение от iosif (Сообщение 2740511)
Or maybe Gregory help?
I have it (and, it seems, not only for me) type of computer guardian angel

Thank you!
<! - ~ 12 ~ ->

Already helped!
There's a new topic.
Here it is.

Pavel 03.09.2013 14:06

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 2743031)
This is the main and most formidable aspect of lack of demand for art and creation of a secondary market . Art DO NOT CARE masses .

Art of the masses and never cared. Read impressionism in letters and documents -goers, on one hand to count. Interested in how much weight .

Seriy 03.09.2013 15:53

Vladimir Vladimirovich, easy!


http://www.ceramicthought.com/1/post...c-artists.html

number 4 in the list of the best contemporary ceramic artists in the world - Sergei Isupov son keramistki Kiev, immigrated to the United States, has become a successful and well recognized.
His work, chances are that you have seen but did not know that it's our artist.

Pavel 03.09.2013 16:08

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2743291)
Vladimir Vladimirovich, easy!

http://www.ceramicthought.com/1/post...c-artists.html
number 4 in the list of the best contemporary ceramic artists in the world - Sergei Isupov son keramistki Kiev , immigrated to the United States, has become a successful and well recognized . His work , chances are that you have seen but did not know that it's our artist .

You know how hard it is to get an education there , and on the training and education can do anything.

Artoil-A 03.09.2013 17:18

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2743061)
art of the masses and never cared. Read impressionism in letters and documents -goers, on one hand to count. Interested in how much weight .

This is not the case. Even during the hyperinflation of people were interested in painting and want to buy pictures . Another issue is that the paintings were sold for a higher price ( at times) and the average buyer was not willing to pay that price.

Also, the quality of the paintings on the open market. If there will be exhibition of paintings of high quality, the artist - hack all pictures do not buy it.

Pavel 03.09.2013 17:30

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2743341)
Even in the years of hyperinflation

That's why people buy and the money to invest.

Peter 03.09.2013 18:26

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2743061)
Read impressionism in letters and documents -goers, on one hand to count. Interested in how much weight .

And I read ... Impressionism did not really interested , but for Barbizon and Milly paid normally. A salon collected tens of thousands, as well as " Mobile " in Russia .. The sales were in the categories of " the people ." Poor people buy prints contemporaries , they were no less deshevye.Tem was considered good form to have on the wall krtinku artist. Even now, in the western markets are trading neshedevrami 19th century , how much to buy them.

Артём 03.09.2013 19:56

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and also on the quality of the paintings on the open market. If there will be exhibition of paintings of high quality, the artist - hack do not buy paintings .

Yes, of course.) )))
Consumer goods , and buy the way for this , and there are . For a more -or-less painting even necessary to come to the salon , but these merchants do not go there , feel their inferiority , they'll nothing in this hack . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 03.09.2013 20:51

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number 4 in the list of the best contemporary ceramic artists in the world - Sergei Isupov son keramistki Kiev , immigrated to the United States, has become a successful and well recognized .

Sergey Isupov was born in 1963 in Stavropol ( Russia ), lived with his parents in Kiev, where in 1982 he graduated from the Kiev State Art Institute . Continued his education in Estonia , where he received bachelor's and master's Art Institute in Tallinn. More than a decade sculptor living and working in Kammingtone ( MA ).


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