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Pavel 31.08.2013 13:13

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Сообщение от iosif; 2738891 "
Paul , if you 're painting , not Zarek from their subsequent sale ,

I renounce , even very much, but I meant that the painting made ​​for sale isku3sstvom is difficult to call. The example on the face.
What about the rights of the picture after the sale, we have already argued. I agree with you. For example , I Korovin and immediately a bunch of respect.

Buscador 31.08.2013 13:31

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2739131)
But at the beginning of the market of professional organizers were few, and they worked on the purse.

And at the end of the market the organizers are also on the purse ...

Artoil-A 31.08.2013 14:31

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 2739221)
Yes, and at the end of the market organizers are working on the purse too ...


If there was a professional growth, I was ready then to work for a minimum and as a journeyman.

Хранитель укропа 31.08.2013 14:48

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Сообщение от Hollandup (Сообщение 2650661)
.. it is important to periodically present ( exposed ) ... decided to spin ( necessary) to enter the union 's ..

I wonder what will they say this year.
From cutting remarks to the annual autumn exhibition in the Artists' Union of St. Petersburg ( 2012 )

Tatiana Yastrebova , theater artist :
" Rock and roll is dead , and the Union of artists , too . He looks like a dying former Soviet factories that produce goods and poor live mostly on the surrender of the shops in the lease.
While all of this is due to the worldwide situation of corruption. In French, the word "corruption " means a change in the properties . Here and now everywhere we see changes in the properties .
Art does not know where to go , and the consumer of art with a purse we prefer something realistic , that does not relate to the truth of life. The truth of life is not to write a Shishkin . Therefore, most of the artists themselves forge the tastes of buyers, here is a lifeless art. "

Alexander Fedorov , the artist :
"There is no breakthrough, as it was 100 years ago, or in 1960 or in 1980 , a makeover. Shows CX differ little from each other in the past decade , since we live in a long time ago. Autumn exhibition - the usual in which the poor artists who do not have money disburse solo exhibitions in expensive galleries exhibit their work to please their friends. "

Кирилл Сызранский 31.08.2013 14:57

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and live mainly in the surrender of the shops for rent.
It is, on the condition that in the presence of these "shop" under the lease.

Our unit CX whole house on 4 floors lopped off.

Хранитель укропа 31.08.2013 14:58

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov (Сообщение 2739141)
How to promote an artist? The method was invented .. D.Shaginym . Mitek artist sits down on the floor, lifts the leg , the other two with the power Mitki hyping it up so that mate for some time spinning on the fifth point . This is called Mit'kovskaya BREKDANS <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

That's where I had a pair of brushes on each leg and substitute while rotating canvas <! - ~ 1 ~ - > .. and there would be a rainbow Mitki brekdansa .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2739311)
That's right , with the condition that the presence of these "shop" under the lease.
Our unit CX whole house on 4 floors lopped off .

Cyril, this universal phenomenon , and your example with the CX only a special case . Across the country, took away not only the floors .. and plants and areas. Bast people that now have nowhere to stay in the Altai to the tent , all the shores of the lakes and rivers are shared and direct approach " managers " with the offer decent pay for the services ..
However , and you 're all well know , do not even doubt it !

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2739191)
I Korovin and immediately a bunch of respect.

What do <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ..
holy name!

Pavel 31.08.2013 16:09

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Сообщение от Guardian of dill 2739321
What to do ..
holy name!

This is to ensure that the art is and its purpose.

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Сообщение от iosif; 2738891 "
Paul , if you 're painting , not Zarek from their subsequent sale , it's all the same goods.

How to formulate product is something that is worth the money . When I write that is not calculated what it would cost much , because writing on a certain number that is not art. How to determine how much will it cost? I propose a mechanism that exists in the world of auctions, but not such as we have, and as such Drouot .

Peter 31.08.2013 19:30

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Сообщение от Keeper dill 2739281

Alexander Fedorov , the artist :
"There is no breakthrough, as it was 100 years ago, or in 1960 or in 1980 , a makeover. Shows CX differ little from each other in the past decade , since we live in a long time ago. Autumn exhibition - the usual in which the poor artists who do not have money disburse solo exhibitions in expensive galleries exhibit their work to please their friends ".

The breakthrough will be when this sector money will come . Money raised interest, and will only invest in a "new" painting .

Кирилл Сызранский 31.08.2013 19:42

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 2739701)
will only invest in a "new" painting.

What's that - " new painting " and why it appears " when this sector money will come "?
It's like in football - have bought expensive foreign players, and they will revive interest in the Russian Cup?

Peter 31.08.2013 20:31

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2739741)
What's that - " new painting " and why it appears " in this sector when money will come "?
It's like in football - have bought expensive foreign players, and they will revive interest in the Russian Cup?

That's right. "Anji" with money and no-where lost interest? (Pun <! - ~ 1 ~ ->)

Buscador 31.08.2013 21:02

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2739461)
I propose a mechanism that exists in the world of auctions, but not such as we have, and as such Drouot.

Provided that where you take ... And if not?
What other mechanism?
What do we have that they have - all the same ...

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 2739701)
The breakthrough will be when this sector money will come.
Money raised interest, and will only invest in a "new" painting.

Indeed, what is it?
And what amounts of money are you saying?

Хранитель укропа 31.08.2013 21:07

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 2739701)
when breakthrough will come in this sector money. Money raised interest, and will only invest in a "new" painting .

"New Painting" .. If you throw out all the recipes in a pan and fry the great , then cooked Adzhapsandal is not for everyone. All the Great , usually obsessed with work and his painful tormented genius , so they give birth to something extraordinary . Ready to contemporary artist to such a measure, and a repetition of the great ways to give birth to his " New Art" ?

Pablo Picasso : " Good artists copy , great - they steal ." Was obsessed with work. In the early years of his life in Paris Picasso was so poor that he sometimes had to drown his paintings of the room instead of wood .

Notorious Paul Gauguin : " Art - is an abstraction, remove it from the wild , fantasizing based on it , and think more about the creative process rather than the result " - I hope he is said to development of severe neurosyphilis .. Often experiencing financial difficulties , he was unable to buy the paint.
Paul Gauguin worked as a laborer on the Panama Canal .

Not everyone can like Edvard Munch to be possessed by the work .. he had this to say: " Writing for me - it is a disease and intoxication. disease , from which I do not want to get off , and drunkenness , in which I want to stay . In his art, I tried to explain to myself life and its meaning, I also tried to help others .. " .

Pierre -Auguste Renoir : " I ​​managed to write about 6000 pictures in 60 years. Admitted:" In 40 years , I found that the king of all colors - black . "
Renoir was so in love with the painting that did not stop working even in old age, aching different forms of arthritis, and painted with a brush tied to the sleeve . Once he was a close friend of Matisse said, " Auguste , why do not you leave the painting , you do so suffer ? " Renoir limited only to answer : «La douleur passe, la beauté reste» ( The pain passes, but the beauty remains ) . "

Van Gogh suffers from obsessive imperfections and tormented by his genius did not cut off his whole ear , but only a piece of lobe . However, the widespread legend that the artist himself all amputated ear. During his hectic life not been in a psychiatric hospital with a diagnosis of schizophrenia to manic- depressive psychosis. Committed suicide in the farm yard hiding behind a pile of manure and shooting himself in the stomach. He was 37 years old . For us, from classic and genius .

Salvador Dali was looking for images of where he could often resorted to artificial sleep with a key in his hand. Sitting on a chair , he fell asleep with his fingers caught between a heavy wrench. Gradually weakened grip , the key fell and banged on a plate lying on the floor . Incurred during nap thoughts and dreams were often short of new ideas or solutions bright splashes out on the web.
Salvador Dali was the nickname "Avida Dollars", which translates as " passionately fond of dollars ."
Almost every work of Dali is either a portrait or silhouette.

Henri Matisse : For many years, obsessively worked and lived in a constant and exhausting themselves and their families need. Suffered from depression and insomnia , sometimes crying in his sleep and woke up screaming . He was about 40 when he was finally able to independently provide for their families .
Never painted a picture of rocks, clear crystals of houses, cultivated fields .

Finally Hovhannes Aivazovsky was obsessed trudogoliey - wrote 60,000 works .. and every year their number is steadily growing and growing <! - ~ 1 ~ -> .

Perhaps everyone should go its own way and in their way .. Worldwide there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of artists .. Time sieve sift them , and that is born will be presented by the latest ...

Peter 31.08.2013 21:19

"New Art"-a synthesis termin.Mnogie artists write "on the table" and certainly honest interesting things.
Open this table may sluchay.Predpolozhu money and that money is comparable with the football well would support the market.
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Хранитель укропа 31.08.2013 21:27

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 2739941)
"New Art" - a synthesis termin.Mnogie artists write " on the table " and certainly honest interesting things. Open this table may sluchay.Predpolozhu money and that money is comparable with the football well would support the market. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

http://im5-tub-ru.yandex.net/i?id=180422960-11-72&n=21
In football, the primitive emotions , mixed with yeast and foundation instincts , and painting .. it is to be understood !
And to understand it does not have to strain one year, and it is difficult to strain and it did not like.
West organized the whole constellation of multi-billion dollar market .. including the football market and the market of painting , the task to catch up and fit ..
Wanted genius ..
http://im3-tub-ru.yandex.net/i?id=199302178-55-72&n=21

Peter 31.08.2013 21:34

Start the mechanism of the secondary market today hudozhnikov.Vsego business somehow.
DO NOT understand anything!
There should be a profitable business.
ART MMM.
Somewhere there is already proposed.
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