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Игорь Гурьев 15.10.2012 21:28

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Сообщение от vg_edger; 2298481"
until people figure out that " the emperor has no clothes ."

The King was not naked.
King just very extravagantly dressed.

I repeat : there is subverters modernism and its fans , it will be alive and kicking, so to speak.

What do you climb into the bottle , do not understand.
Here I am , for example , modernism in life is not needed, so I'm not worried about it.
I try not to think about it .
Is that in conversations with young people to instruct on the right path.

vg_edger 15.10.2012 21:35

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev (Сообщение 2298501)
Here I am, for example, modernism in life is not needed, so I'm not worried about it.

I try not to think about it.


But I'm interested.
Not as art, but as a phenomenon.

Konstantin 15.10.2012 21:50

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Сообщение от vg_edger; 2298521"
And I'm interested . Not as art, but as a phenomenon .

Here is the answer . The phenomenon is interesting and attractive .
Discussion of the black square makes sense to continue after you have become familiar with members of the forum [/URL], and see if there is anything to add other than " I do not like ," you are welcome.

vg_edger 15.10.2012 21:54

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2298551)
Here is the answer . The phenomenon is interesting and attractive .
Discussion of the black square makes sense to continue after you have become familiar with members of the forum[/URL], and see if there is anything to add other than " I do not like ," you are welcome .

Thank you all read it.

uriart 15.10.2012 22:07

Cyril Syzran, just for you !
About Ballet Nouveau !
I often watch the program on a plate "Mezzo".
And once in the heading " Intermezzo " show piece modern ballet .
Came three dancers on stage.
Steel in single file and started to do the action.
And the action was that that first (I apologize to all) one lady peed through her panties , and then another and another .
Tread in their own excrement and went backstage.
If you like a modern ballet , please, I do not mind!
But in the same western civilized world, there are public toilets , I'm sure that in the theater are also available.
And to celebrate small need not cost the dancers go on public display.
This can be called the art of modern ballet ?

Кирилл Сызранский 15.10.2012 22:22

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 2298581)
once

I see.
:)

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 2298581)
If you like a modern ballet, please, I do not mind!

In the world there are many contemporary ballet troupes, ballet, you know, it's not just "Giselle" and "Swan Lake", Batman and fouettes.

Konstantin 15.10.2012 22:22

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 2298581)
If you like a modern ballet, please, I do not mind!

Why take the extreme?

At the festival in Moscow Chekhov always is 3-5 abstract ballet performance is great.

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Found my old post about the black box now:
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Today, our editor roamed the CHA. Press conference by Kandinsky (Vladimir make pictures) , an exhibition of our blogger Mountain Chahal at the Tretyakov Gallery . And after that we went and sign in the main exhibition, relax the soul.
The rooms do not have one , we were the only visitors. Enough to walk up all the same , we met another visitor , rather visitor. She stood with the phone to listen to the information in front of one picture was long. So far we have come , while walking around and walked away - she was standing. Can you guess what the picture before ?
Yes!
Before the black square !
Such a variety of color pictures , just before the black square .
In this discussion can be considered closed , thank you .
In support , see pictures.

Konstantin 15.10.2012 22:45

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Found my old post about the black box now:
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Today, our editor roamed the CHA. Press conference by Kandinsky (Vladimir make pictures) , an exhibition of our blogger Mountain Chahal at the Tretyakov Gallery . And after that we went and sign in the main exhibition, relax the soul.
The rooms do not have one , we were the only visitors. Enough to walk up all the same , we met another visitor , rather visitor. She stood with the phone to listen to the information in front of one picture was long. So far we have come , while walking around and walked away - she was standing. Can you guess what the picture before ?
Yes!
Before the black square !
Such a variety of color pictures , just before the black square .
In this discussion can be considered closed , thank you .
In support , see pictures.

uriart 15.10.2012 22:47

Konstantin, I specifically told about this extreme to those who have not seen these things "creation " were able to supplement their knowledge of Modra - ballet.
And there is really very interesting and good performances .
Enough to remember such luminaries as Maurice Bejart and Rolland Petit !
But against them and such choreographers , so to speak , appear.
And claim the same right as the best film directors , choreographers .
" And here we are able ! Neither Bejar or Petit so much in life will fail !"

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Konstantin, poor woman!
It was so long and listened to the phone in which she tried to explain how beautiful and how wonderful it is ! :)
But!
The patient was probably waiting to hear the end. :)

But near the paintings Serov , Levitan, Grabar, Korovin and and and and and ........ and the phone do not have to listen .
Work you do attract !

zarajara 15.10.2012 22:56

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Сообщение от vg_edger (Сообщение 2298421)
I do not sculpt labels, I just express their own opinion. I do not like, simply because I think that there's just nothing like it, works to do, there is only a mockery of common sense. What you as an art like or do not like Rothko works?

When you say "junk" - this is a shortcut.
Not only for Rothko, and Malevich and many other modernists like above all an obsession and the sequence with which they carried to the extreme the idea. Like what idea they had.
Do not like the principle of simplicity, which they so enthusiastically followed. In Rothko is somewhat different than that of Malevich, he held a kind of psychological experiment, the maximum impact colors of its combinations, format pictures, etc. I must say - it has happened. In fact, he proved that yes, you can make a strong impact as such colors on the human psyche and without form-content. But by itself it art-science experiment I personally do not have anything.
Well if this is very short.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2298591)

In the world there are many contemporary ballet troupes, ballet, you know, it's not just "Giselle" and "Swan Lake", Batman and fouettes, tutu and pointe shoes. :D

But I've been like this company. There was probably "The Dying Swan" has listed classics? :D

Dying Swan, Ballet Trocadero, The Dying Swan, Trockadero


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