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NATA NOVA 20.10.2012 16:22

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2303511)
NATA NOVA, if the peony flower you do not see a single blade, it is not realism, modernism , te convention. Yes , literate, but again within modernism .

Yes, even the " pot " .... :) , most importantly, there is a great color harmony
(but less than the detail, the more harmony ), this is the main problem realists and few people manage to solve it ( IMHO))

Балагур 20.10.2012 16:45

Art - art.
 
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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 25935)
borders on all my long no no ... most people do not understand what is called art and what is not ...

Art should tempt ( art ). If the people are tempted by more hyped signature of the artist, and painting itself does not tempt , it 's like buying stocks or bonds. But then it is the same people as in this forum. But such moments (buying patterns because of the " crows " ), a very common occurrence. Many artists were not entirely successful work. "Galka " in this case the seller does the weather .

NATA NOVA 20.10.2012 16:51

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Сообщение от Balagur (Сообщение 2303561)
"Galka" in this case, the seller makes the weather.

That's just "how to grow this big, fat, black daw" and is dedicated to (specifically) the topic :)

Fed 20.10.2012 17:18

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Сообщение от Balagur ; 2303561"
Art should tempt ( art ). If the people are tempted by more hyped signature of the artist, and painting itself does not tempt , it 's like buying stocks or bonds.

Art is the word st.sl. "experience ", so buying from signature fits the meaning of the word. The more experienced and well-known painter. - Hence the work is more art and the experience of other successful buyers, leading to his promotion, has confirmed that this art - that is, has more experience users .

Балагур 20.10.2012 18:07

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2303601)
Art is the word st.sl. "experience ", so buying from signature fits the meaning of the word. The more experienced and well-known painter. - Hence the work is more art and the experience of other successful buyers, leading to his promotion, has confirmed that this art - that is, has more experience to use .

Then all alone trade remains :) And the beautiful - words. Nonsense , however.

NATA NOVA 20.10.2012 18:28

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Сообщение от Balagur (Сообщение 2303611)
Then all alone A trade remains the beautiful - words.
Nonsense, however.


Balagur, you in "About the wonderful" .... (here about the promotion)

Кирилл Сызранский 20.10.2012 22:54

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2303481"
is not realism, it's modernism.

In neighboring one participant wrote that Van Gogh did not modernist, and modernization, according to his version, begins with astraktnogo vanguard.

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA; 2303501"
Modernism (Italian modernismo - «modern trend", from the Latin. Modernus - «modern, recently") - the direction in the art of XX century, characterized by a break with previous historical experience of art, asserting new unconventional in art, continuous updating of art forms, as well as conventional (schematization, diversion) style. [1] Modernist paradigm was one of the leaders in western civilization first half of XX century, in the second half of the century, it was subjected to extensive criticism.
(From wiki)

From Soviet textbooks Ithor modern art begins with Impressionism and gone - Post-Impressionism, Fauvism, Cubism, etc.
Flowers Paul Donahue, of course, made in the modernist style., There is not a shadow or penumbra, flowers and vases are conditional and call these things reazizmom I, for one, can not. Simple by today's "isms" is a very traditional painting, but in the tradition of modernism, as it was understood in the twentieth century.

Seriy 21.10.2012 15:26

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2303741)
In the next one participant wrote that Van Gogh did not modernist, and modernism, in his version, begins with the abstract avant-garde.


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  According to generally accepted international terminology modernism begins with the exhibition Fauvism (in t h Matisse) in 1905. Van Gogh, Gauguin - the forerunner of modernism. Sometimes believe that modernism began with the Van Gogh Museum.
Yes, in the Soviet art history modernism begins with the Impressionists. But the local point of view is entirely local and useless, in any MOMA, te museum of modernism, no Impressionist not hanging. For example, in San Francisco MOMA exhibition begins with Matisse and Picasso and Monet hanging in another museum, as it should be according to the classification.

Contemporary begin by mid-1970's. The exact date, as the exhibition Fauves, I have not seen, but 60 years is still modernism, and 80 have already Contemporary. Again, this classification is of practical importance. Collection Neue Galerie in Berlin ends Beatles and pop art, if interested later art, then it is necessary to go to the Hamburger Bahnhof (museum).


On Affordabl Art. Here Gelos at prices very affordabl, but to call it so is not possible. What are the differences AA?
1.Hudozhniki, basically living, young, working in a modern key.
2. Curatorial collection. In Gormlis clearly visible hand of the curator-collection selected and balanced, there is no clear debris and no bias in one style, manner. In Gelos-dump junk, peppered moth balls.
3. Modern presentation, packaging, designed for young, active buyer site design, display functions, and services.
4. Most importantly, make it clear to the buyer is not a second-rate art, not a junk shop, it's relevant, fresh work of young artists who are working in the same direction as expensive contemporary artists, but they are not yet in a cage large galleries and exhibitions, but it's all they have in front, so the prices in the hundreds of euros, not in the tens of thousands.


Maybe someone else to add?

Кирилл Сызранский 21.10.2012 15:53

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2304101 "
in any MOMA , te museum of modernism , no Impressionist not hanging . For example, in San Francisco MOMA exhibition begins with Matisse and Picasso and Monet hanging in another museum, as it should be according to the classification .

Do not know how in San Francisco , and in the New York MOMA and is, and and and and even

Seriy 21.10.2012 16:06

Cyril Syzran, because Monet lived a long and sometimes include catalogs , artists of the 20th century. Why Renoir ? because a lot of reasons - given , went to the formation of the collection. If you are seriously interested in this issue , because you can and write a letter to the Moma .
I am of the classifications described above.

Meanwhile on Gormlis more than half lots with bidami .


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