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Seriy 17.10.2012 21:23

very friendly to artists and the auction price is not junk, and quite a high.

Кирилл Сызранский 17.10.2012 21:26

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2300981)
and the prices are not junk, and quite a high.

With prices takii artists can afford to live well.

NATA NOVA 17.10.2012 21:32

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2300971"
What kind of price maintenance? They are very different from the expected price of this ?
If you recall, for example , the previous auctions ?

No, not much ( all is quiet ), works of unknown artists start with small numbers (and I, for one , have full confidence in the auction experience and not rock the boat , though, of course , moments would be more worthy of prices)
There's a theme of "how much is the product of the artist" was seen as the events unfolded . Posleauktsionnyh sales is observed ( from my experience ), probably because the live auctions are regular (as well as buyers, and probably represented artists ) .. and likely feasibility of established mechanism .

Кирилл Сызранский 17.10.2012 21:47

Kievan
in this auction.

NATA NOVA 17.10.2012 21:49

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2300981"
very friendly to artists and the auction price is not junk , and quite a high .

That's right , friendly (confirmed ) only pleasant experience.
But we'll see October 23 (you can watch online) How will prices.
"High prices" in those . who already knows the public, and all that is not sold on the first try , still leaves ( usually) on the second or third ...
Reserve a serious matter (not reached the reserve price , know the problems , put up more in a couple of auctions , as buyers in this time dozreyut or other appear)

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2301041"
former Kievan found on this auction.

brand new, so the prices are .. original (and no reserve) -. because while the public does not know .. ( with my work so it was in the beginning)
In this case, may go to 20 pounds (if the trade will not) wait and see ( processing small -acrylic on paper)

etranger 18.10.2012 14:30

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And again, no matter how nasty you artists would not have been a big mistake , (another ) to criticize them aloud , they are your benefactors !
My "Survivor " has already died, and they work in any comparison with contemporary vain attempts do not go. Like comparing , for example, the icon with Mstera novodelnymi cheaply made ​​by screen printing . And like that, and another icon , but not for all. By the way, for this event have nothing to do , just curiosity - and go and find a nugget ? And do not understand the reasons for this far-fetched tolerance to mediocrity , with their claim to " own vision ."
That before any fees , levies, is not competent to admit , but that's like in the " Four Corners " from the owner of the charge of $ 50 , it seems , just to include it in the directory. And no one is buzzing like. While it is understandable format of another . And then two naive girls to fight its own enthusiasm for the interests of talented young people , and you accuse them of self-interest )) Really really think that having collected $ 8 for people from twenty to thirty dropped everything and drove off to the Emirates, splash out on non-labor ? :)

Кирилл Сызранский 18.10.2012 14:38

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and do not understand the reasons for this far-fetched tolerance to mediocrity , with their claim to " own vision ."

According to the results show several images to draw conclusions about bezarnosti their author (s ) not premature ? And prenzii on " own vision " for the artist is a big plus , I think.

etranger 18.10.2012 15:01

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2301461)
As a result of watching a few pictures to draw conclusions about bezarnosti their author (s ) not premature ? And the claim of " own vision " for the artist is a big plus , I think .

I am , in principle, the results of image viewing . Ever seen , and solo exhibitions, and even entire "life path" sometimes even dynastic sense that nothing but disappointment did not cause.
And I know the contrary, good artists that just work themselves quietly in the studio - do not sell and do not set up , do not see any sense .
As to the " vision " - who can argue , of course , plus , if it is not hidden under his own impotence , as a professional (do not know how to draw people , it happens) , and emotional ( the scarcity of internal world does not allow anything to tell the world of the sacred , Besides another stroke green on an oilcloth or there lay something out krashenok ).

Кирилл Сызранский 18.10.2012 15:13

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Сообщение от etranger (Сообщение 2301481)
Besides from another stroke on the green oilcloth or there lay something out krashenok).

Already interesting: green on the oilcloth!
And "The current Th of krashenok " is about Mas?

NATA NOVA 18.10.2012 15:22

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and do not understand the reasons for this far-fetched tolerance to mediocrity, with their claim to "own vision."

Tolerance (in this case) - common courtesy (=elementary professionalism).
That's what I want to note: the higher the rank of the auction, the more respectful, pleasant and constructive communication .. (attitude)
Vroroe: what sense to you "understand"? It is necessary to create conditions for mutual cooperation, which would not be your personal opinion, which is better to keep to yourself deeply (if not capable of unconditional respect for the sincere business partners)
 
At the prices of works of artists. (Views)
I think for an unknown artist, who started "from scratch" (no rear-financial, moral, etc, without PR, without competent dealer and without gallery) are beginning to sell at auction should not be afraid of small price-if not settled vostrebovatelnosti-much and not put (and will) - regardless of the level of work. The public (buyers) meet, fall in love and get used to (want to buy), not suddenly, it takes time and there is no point in trying to "run ahead of the engine" (or run before learning to walk) ..
Why am I writing about auctions, because (usually) - this is the most constructive place for shopping and constructive atmosphere, too.
("Wait and see")


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