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Евгений 14.07.2010 05:23

Вложений: 1
Nadezhda Belyaeva, Director of the Perm State Art Gallery:
- The court - nonsense! It's a different time and society itself must assess. And there was enough public courts. I think now the process would adversely affect the reputation of Russia in the West. This is something Pinochet. Even in Soviet times there was no public trials of skill. Planting - planted, but has never been so publicly. Trial of art - I do not recall such.

Today I thought a lot and came to the conclusion that we often blame the rulers of that actually make the rank and file officers, trying to please the leadership. I believe that this process was triggered by just ordinary officials.

Евгений 14.07.2010 05:26

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Marat Gelman, director of the Museum of Modern Art PERMM, Public Chamber member:
- I talked about how he intends to repeat the exhibition "Forbidden Art" in his gallery. But when the verdict is declared, this is no longer necessary.

This offer was needed until Erofeev and Samodurov threatened to real life, but for us it was most important - to protect them from it. While over the curators of the exhibition hung term, many could not speak frankly. Debate has not happened because people could lose freedom, and nobody wanted them to harm their statements. Yes, and Erofeev many things are saying, because he was frightened by the prospect of jail time.

Now that the sword of Damocles has disappeared, to seek the abolition of the court. Though it is joyful for us all, but unfair: on the wording of it is absolutely absurd. We must begin the second phase - educational. The situation showed that we are living in conditions of impaired communication between artists and society. It is necessary to explain the aims of art, to outline the boundaries of his influence.

When there are no more threats to life, I can honestly say that this exhibition as "Forbidden Art", it was necessary, of course, be done in an artistic space, but not a community center. This exhibition is intended solely for the site, which is clearly marked as fiction. Is experience really is a mistake by the organizers or their conscious position, I do not know. Most of the work that went into the exhibition "Forbidden Art", exhibited in my gallery, and even when the forces of obscurantism tried to sue us, they do nothing. She came prosecutor's office, we wrote an explanatory note, which clearly indicated that the gallery - a place of art, and that we do, no crime.

Евгений 14.07.2010 05:29

Вложений: 1
Gor Chahal, artist, organizer of the exhibition "Valaam /Dialogue" (held in the Church of St. Tatyana at Moscow University):
- The current charges Erofeev and Samodurova precedent, in essence, is not. Precedent Samodurova prosecution for the same 282-th article was already in 2006. I did not notice after some drastic changes for the worse in the image of Russia in the world art scene. At this stage Russia in general is not particularly noticeable. So I do not think that the current charges will somehow have a significant impact on the image.

In many European countries, there are taboo subjects in the arts. For example, blasphemy in Italy, the denial of the Holocaust in Germany, etc. With regard to its impact on Russian contemporary art, I would, of course, wanted very much to the artistic community is finally realized: if it is itself unable to formulate an ethical and aesthetic criteria and acceptable boundaries of artistic expression, he would come to the aid of art in uniform (as in a legal state, any public activities, including art, limited to the right, taken on its territory).
But I do not think that the artistic community can so that's just realize that. Probably, it will be a lengthy process, in the course of which will improve not only the artistic community, but the Russian system of justice. So how was this process is organized, I personally do not have more respect for our court.

artcol 14.07.2010 10:28

In blogs they write:
Цитата:

I've heard with half an ear, that the involvement of the writing of the novel "Around zero" writer Viktor Erofeev, as was decided by the court regarding his younger brother (in conjunction with the exhibition of anti-religious) rushed to Surkov and Surkov promised to repeal the sentence by the court higher court. Ostensibly sentence forgot to agree with the Kremlin.

Аркадий 14.07.2010 10:35

Brad.

Кирилл Сызранский 14.07.2010 10:54

Цитата:

Сообщение от Ruff (Сообщение 1192922)
Brad. :) "novel" about zero "is not written Erofeevym, and V. Surkov (under the pseudonym) on the basis of the experience of his close contact with Putin. :D

Цитата:

- Similarly, if the author Surkov? About this book different spoken and written. Moreover, the novel came out under the name of Nathan Dubovitskij ...

- Exactly. I was talking with Surkov. I have a copy with his autograph.
Igor Panin. Interview with Viktor Erofeev.
http://www.lgz.ru/article/10731/

artcol 14.07.2010 10:56

Цитата:

Сообщение от Ruff (Сообщение 1192922)
Brad. :) "novel" about zero "is not written Erofeevym, and V. Surkov (under a pseudonym) based on the experience of his close contact with Putin. :D

Yes? This is for you Surkov himself in a personal conversation confirmed? Well, well ...
I understand that Ruff V. Erofeev, yes. A mb Ruff was a member of staff lit.negrov?

Shl This is not the authorship, but who is about.

Кирилл Сызранский 14.07.2010 11:01

Цитата:

Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1192972)
I understand it Ruff V. Erofeev, yes.

No, Surkov himself wrote under the pseudonym Nathan Dubovitskii.
Incidentally, today's name of his wife Surkov-Dubovitskaya.
Цитата:

B. Surkov:
  And now - Nathan Vasilievich (Natasha's full name Natalia, so it seems to me that not only the name, but the writer's middle name Dubovitskij all know).
http://nomer.ruspioner.ru/statya.php...E0%F2%F3%F0%FB.

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1192972)
shl This is not the authorship, but who is about.

Wait a minute.
You quoted the blogger that Erofeev the Kremlin ran. And who is he, in the Kremlin to run? And it turns out, according to the blogger you quoted, and there is one author of the novel supposedly Surkov.
This is a very, very "cool".
It's about how I am about to say that you married the eldest daughter (from his first marriage) wife Medvedev.

artcol 14.07.2010 11:13

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1192992)
No, Surkov himself wrote under the pseudonym Nathan Dubovitskii.
Incidentally, today's name of his wife Surkov-Dubovitskaya.

http://nomer.ruspioner.ru/statya.php...E0%F2%F3%F0%FB.

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Wait a minute.
You quoted the blogger that Erofeev the Kremlin ran. And who is he, in the Kremlin to run? And it turns out, according to the blogger you quoted, and there is one author of the novel supposedly Surkov.
This is a very, very "cool".
It's about how I am about to say that you married the eldest daughter (from his first marriage) wife Medvedev.

The rumor is a rumor, but the smoke there's fire. MB Surkov himself wrote, he has a lot of time, came home from work at 6 pm, and for the manuscript. I do not know.

Shl Article Pavlova not yit? :D "A very powerful thing, I would recommend.

Кирилл Сызранский 14.07.2010 11:14

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