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NATA NOVA 08.01.2012 13:11

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I wish you live long

Thank you, dear Maskit, for your kind words! (I've got the plans out there!)
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Few people dare to liken himself famous ballerina-

OH, (me)! :)>


Maskit, do not worry! Those who need all-clear; a those who understand them, so right!

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And of course, a mistake to suppose that in addition to any artist who in his raising of the ADA does not nterisovan

I regret arguing that it is an illusion!
In the "zero-artist" is not interested (alas) no one! Be Thou a talent though Repin, although 村上 隆 (Murakami)!

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And the dealers, and relatives, and gallery owners?

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If the relatives are in "support group, and if not?"
Dealers and gallery owners interested in profit, not the artists (and its promotion)
Nat, a promotion, I mean in the short term to express yourself. how about a meaningful and successful artist

 If there is a factual material (and in quantity and in quality and potential vostrebovatelnosti) how much not?

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All of these you have A, AA ... mean decades.

Of course! (But you can quickly (IMHO)
And for many years to create m0ozhno worthy material, in your opinion?

Seriy 08.01.2012 16:02

Maskit, once you have everything just hurts, weeds, Heritage School, cynical promotion.
I just now concerned about the issue, before mankind had to choose, Van Gogh or Bouguereau, where to go, whom to admit helmsman. One from the school with technology, with the traditions .. Monet said that humanity recognizes Bouguereau's greatest artists of the 19th century. Another real-crazy, the Academy immediately dropped as soon as it tried to make plaster painting for three years navayal 800 works with color bars, which no one even just for the painting did not recognize. No promotion was not.
Mankind thought and thought and chose Van Gogh.
And now it's the greatest of artists, character artists, and all seems like a natural, otherwise it could not be. Cost of works by Van Gogh and Bouguereau simply not comparable.
But in reality could be otherwise. We are in our dealers, who do not acknowledge modernity, they are distinguished by Bouguereau-modernism and stayed there happily write about how someone urinated on the picture of a modernist.
You can predict the turns of cultural history?

And Van Gogh was not the only example of blindness around dealers and gallery owners, just very bright. And Picasso's example, when Vollard stopped buying of blue-Picasso did not like. Or less known, Morsdey Hartley - do not wait for success, even though he worked in the sight of the first persons of the art istebleshmenta. Now one of the symbols of art America. And such examples darkness. Dealers usually do not appreciate the new, they can already appreciate the development, estimated up to them. Alas.

I expect you to an explanation of why mankind has chosen a psycho Van Gogh, Bouguereau and not with the school?

Кирилл Сызранский 08.01.2012 16:25

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I am here concerned with the issue now , before mankind had to choose , Van Gogh or Bouguereau, where to go, whom to admit helmsman .

The choice was made before - with the recognition of the Impressionists. Then already , and with Bouguereau , Cabanel , and with , and Jerome , and Meyssone was clear.
You well know the biography of Van Gogh 's , and remember where it was in 1886 , the year, including a goal , when the Durand-Ruel already took Impressionist exhibition in New York .

I-V 08.01.2012 16:53

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Humanity is thought and thought and chose Van Gogh .

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I'm waiting for an explanation from you as to why mankind has chosen a psycho Van Gogh, Bouguereau and not with the school ?

Humanity is still selects William Bouguereau with the school. Gray , put on Artnau ( at the same price ) a copy of Bouguereau and Van Gogh and wait for a while ...

And yet , if you will , opinion on the price list at the show : I think , it's best to start with, to print on A4 pieces 15-25 of price lists (where all the title, year of creation, technique , format) and add in the tray , from which everyone can take this .
You look, taking with him , and sit at home , sit , look , look, and even decide to buy something , you never know ?

Maskit 08.01.2012 17:08

I can not agree that the dealers can not appreciate the new , on the contrary they are the pioneers , they open their eyes a museum, gallery owners and kollektsioneram.U you all the examples from the distant past , and I have from my experience and my experience druzey.Ya know a good artist Marlen Spindler - None of the museum staff of his work were not needed as long as they did not deal with dealers and collectors - one of them is Nadia Brykina . Then the Tretyakov more fun if the remaining work and Vollard stopped buying from his beloved Picasso weaker , in his view , work and sent the funds to another channel , so it does not say about his blindness , but only on adherence to principles of the collector.

NATA NOVA 08.01.2012 17:10

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mankind still chooses Bouguereau with the school. Gray , put on Artnau ( at the same price ) a copy of Bouguereau and Van Gogh and wait a while ...

IV, let me say that " artnau " this is not the whole of humanity , and for the purity of the experiment you want to add chamomile , lilac, birch trees and a sunset ...

I-V 08.01.2012 17:14

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and for the purity of the experiment you want to add chamomile, lilac, birch trees and sunset ...


Whose interpretation, again, is important - "Bouguereau," or "Van Gogh"?
:)>

Seriy 08.01.2012 17:15

Cyril Syzran, impressionism - not modernism . I know that we often begin with modernism Impressionists, then in the world , with Van Gogh and Gauguin :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_art
Strange that the article about modernism in Russian and English are different even in terms. In books that I have in English. Van Gogh and Gauguin consider only the forerunners of modernism.
And who all was clear in 1886 ? Van Gogh is just getting ready to make your personal revolution that no one took . Yes, he was noticed in the last months of life, seen in works such lovely Iris . Prior to the recognition of crows over wheat field for decades . Before the Fauves, to Salon 1905 - 20 years, and they recognized and Van Gogh's father.
 It is clear that Van Gogh was ahead of his time, when humanity has reached a certain phase of development , Van Gogh needed , came to the court.
 Here I want to read the analysis , whether modernism was inevitable , or was imposed by modernism ? After all, Picasso in his later regretted sodeyanom , like, I duril people .

NATA NOVA 08.01.2012 17:15

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I can not agree that the dealers can not appreciate the new , on the contrary they are the pioneers , they open their eyes a museum, gallery owners and collectors .

Do you mean the dealer level , Saatchi Gogasyana ? Duc where are them?

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Whose interpretation , again, is important - " Bouguereau ," or " Van Gogh "?

Ochchen good question ! :)> :)> :)>

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After all, Picasso at the end of his life regretting sodeyanom , like, I duril people .

Seriy, do not agree, he always knew that duril (but not recognized ) ..
As, however , Dali ...

Seriy 08.01.2012 17:21

Maskit, Vollard quickly abandoned his principles, and then again started buying Picasso and asked him a series of graphic , known as the Vollard Suite , such as 1933 .
Examples of my past that when there was a gap , m e the time of the birth of modernism. To me this is the most interesting period , for 30 years, there was iso- revolution completely changed the idea that such a painting .


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