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Артём 30.08.2012 16:02

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2229371"
There are many other such psychological tricks

This is understandable, but each buyer - is unrealistic. One likes one music , each other, and as long as you handle a single client, the other five are gone, you 're not Wolf Messing to all at once. You're talking about Psychological Support presentation of pictures for each customer .

Artoil-A 30.08.2012 16:55

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 2229421)
This is understandable, but each buyer - is unrealistic. One likes one music , each other, and as long as you handle a single client, the other five are gone, you 're not Wolf Messing to all at once. You're talking about Psychological Support presentation of pictures for each customer .

The work is proceeding with the buyer, who is staying . Those who left most viewers. On the other hand the sellers have the skill to separate the viewer from the buyer. And it is important to sell the painting , not to sell it a specific buyer. An experienced salesperson can serve almost all potential buyers , not being Messing . I said sure.
  Also forms the subject talking salesman. The abstract talk no . About the weather , headache, and flying saucers in the sale are not talking.

Артём 30.08.2012 17:18

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2229471"
About the weather , headache, and flying saucers in the sale are not talking .

That's it.
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1. Correction interior galleries for effective submission of work.
2. Organize a turnout of potential buyers.
3. An information and psychological support presentation of pictures to each buyer .
I must have misunderstood , but in view of the above issues .
Hypothetically, the potential buyers come and you have to pay each time ,
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to conduct information and .....
Is it really? I think only in words.

Artoil-A 30.08.2012 17:33

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 2229521)
Exactly.

I must have misunderstood , but in view of the above issues .
Hypothetically, the potential buyers come and you have to take the time to everyone, Is it real? I think only in words .

Really. But weary overview paintings buyers must Vernissage
extract from the flow of thousands of spectators. For example. "... Come, do not be lazy .. buy paintings ."
Tuning in lightheadedness.
Next. " ... The war in the Crimea , all the smoke. .. Can not see anything ." Showing a picture with a sea battle sailboats ...
A young couple: "Buy ! Whole life fighting to be .. "
Young : "We 're fighting and so ..". Stopped. All ... Further there is a specific treatment. The painting was sold .

Ie sales pattern is determined not only by its merits, but the work of the seller.

Артём 30.08.2012 17:47

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2229531)
selling paintings is determined not only by its merits, but the work of the seller.

Yes, I agree.
Quite simply, at Dale Carnegie, yet few people use.

DSF 30.08.2012 17:50

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 2229031)
Ali-baba-it Artoil-A? :)

It's just two characters :)
Here, neither the message, - a pearl. Generalize information.
Announcement: "The Fox and the Cat Alice Basilio looking pious Pinocchio with a brush for the organization of joint business.
Terms: We Do "morphological analysis of the semantics, equipment and production technology paintings successful artists of the local market (Lull-Zwicky)", "conducting informational and psychological support of the presentation of pictures for each customer" and guaranteed sale for 1-2 days. "Trafficking in Vernissage and after souvenir department stores, and through the gallery."
Requirements: Ability to close copy Shishkin, Snyders and Kheda - if not tighten technique.
Prices: 500-700 gold for 80x90 landscape on open sale. You also need to make 5.10 meter format works in a month for overseas sales patterns.
Pinocchio gets 1500 - 5000 gold (austere) - and from idea, apparently, it's frightening to imagine <! - ~ 7 ~ -> :D Handle - Golf Miracles, the land of fools. "
Pinocchio then sings a song based on the Civil Code, the Tax Code and other codes:
"50%- usually takes the gallery owner, 40%- is deducted tax authorities on materials (to reflect actual costs, see the Tax Code), so the artist is 30%. From this amount is paid to about 40%of the taxes, ie The remaining 30%x 60%=18%"... tralyalyalya ...
and Pinocchio realizes that he can not see his gold. :)

And that, Artoil-A, to have all Artnau mugs in there? You want to find them here? :)
You also Pavel clearly: "In our corner of the serious guys are silent."
PS: in our time freelancer can work quite legally, without paying any taxes, in full accordance with the law, though he sells, at least through the gallery.
And the questions "and oblaposhivaniya vtulivaniya" under the guise of "information and psychological support" for this forum too small, there are men come out of adolescence.

Artoil-A 11.09.2012 07:18

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Сообщение от DSF (Сообщение 2229561)
This is just two characters :)
Here, neither the message, - a pearl. Generalize information.
Announcement: "The Fox and the Cat Alice Basilio looking pious Pinocchio with a brush for the organization of joint business.
..............
taxes, ie The remaining 30%x 60%= 18%"... tralyalyalya ...
and Pinocchio realizes that he can not see his gold. :)

And that, Artoil-A, to have all Artnau mugs in there? You want to find them here? :)
........
PS: in our time freelancer can work quite legally, without paying any taxes, .....
 here people came out of adolescence.

The artist will have to pay taxes, or he is not an artist, and a lawbreaker. And about any promotion of the artist do not have time to talk.
  Finally figured out how much will the price of the artist. But again, your logic error - how to look for these conditions of artists in workers? And there will be another, as tax take from all taxes, and his gallerist, artists leave the crafts ... Leaving only the fans, proudly call themselves artists.
  Artnau on the way, I have not found it TIN, can help?
  Of psychological support you in the know. In the 80's a well-known psychologist hypothesized need for translation rights in mental state, facilitating the achievement of results. This hypothesis was based on a study of Minnesota test. This translation of the client to do an art manager.
   As for selling the two days of exposure, I usually sell for half a day ...

Laura 11.09.2012 12:33

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2229531)
Really. But weary overview paintings buyers must Vernissage
extract from the flow of thousands of spectators. For example. "... Come, do not be lazy .. buy paintings."
Tuning in lightheadedness.
Next. "... The war in the Crimea, all the smoke. .. Can not see anything." Showing a picture with a sea battle sailboats ...
A young couple: "Buy! Whole life fighting to be .."
Young: "We're fighting and so ..". Stopped. All ... Further there is a specific treatment. The painting was sold.

Ie sales pattern is determined not only by its merits, but the work of the seller.

Admission enchantment is its use tsiganki. Means very good. effective. Another technique is Erickson's hypnosis - podstoyka under the client by establishing rapport. Must be able to distinguish people by temperament - is revealed in stature, facial expressions, gestures, phrases. Of sobsno and goes dancing-tuning. Man sees himself in tune with the man and he removed Automatic unit - he begins to trust. A dvoerie is already 50%of cases :))). The main thing is not to show that you want vtyuhat, try to learn about the inner world of the client, says more about him than about the picture, but the data of the picture gently inserted into the inner world of man. :)

Konstantin 11.09.2012 12:49

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Сообщение от Laura (Сообщение 2252301)
The main thing is not to show that you want vtyuhat, try to learn about the inner world of the client,

About what you say, the point of sale?
Underpass in Konkovo?

Laura 11.09.2012 13:12

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2252331)
about what you say, the point of sale ? Underpass in Konkovo ​​?

What about you , sorry, confused? Phrase tsigansky hypnosis? So this technique hundreds of years, and it has enjoyed korabeyniki Russian and merchants barker - is there any in istroii advertising is :)) ). And Konkovo ​​I am , so I do not know how there . Maybe prosvyatite ? < - ~ 5 ~ ->

Konstantin 11.09.2012 13:45

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Сообщение от Laura; 2252361"
Konkovo ​​And I am not

I used a figure of speech
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Сообщение от Konstantin; 2252331"
underpass in Konkovo ​​

In the nominal sense . Next time uchtu and speak more precise wording .
The way you described the sales
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Сообщение от Laura; 2252301 "
does not show that you want vtyuhat

Not very suitable for selling pictures in galleries. Users who do not know anything and went to the gallery to take a look that is very difficult to persuade either to buy the more notable for the money. They do not ask price . And so on to write about the different ways you can a lot of sales .
And here's your version of " vtyuhat " about that ? About how the client came for Aivazovsky , and he vtyuhali Lozhkina Vasya ?

Laura 11.09.2012 14:09

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2252371)
I used a figure of speech

In the nominal sense. Next time uchtu and speak more precise wording.
The way you described the sales

Not very suitable for selling pictures in galleries. Users who do not know anything and went to the gallery to take a look that is very difficult to persuade either to buy the more notable for the money. They do not ask price. And so on to write about the different ways you can a lot of sales.
And here's your version of "vtyuhat" about that? About how the client came for Aivazovsky, and he vtyuhali Vasya Lozhkina?

Vtyuhat - jargon. I often use it because she does not like being something imposed. I agree that the picture is a product special. But I privedennyy method is suitable for him, because here everything is dependent on the level of the seller. If he is able to build the image of the product to the inner world of the client, the person will feel that this picture is close to him spiritually, he will buy it. Of course, I do not mean the onlookers who came just to stare, but those who did come to buy. How to calculate such a client-a separate issue.

P S. About Konkovo ​​I realized just pinned <- ~ 5 ~ ->

Konstantin 11.09.2012 14:21

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Сообщение от Laura; 2252391 "
About Konkovo ​​I realized just pinned

Yes?
Came true.
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Сообщение от Laura; 2252391"
Of course, I do not mean the onlookers who came just to stare, but those who did come to buy .

Here I am about the same. You did not notice my example ? I repeat - there came a man of Aivazovsky . In your what to do?
1. Aivazovsky or sell imitation of Aivazovsky vtyuhat you call it ? I think not, this fraud , not salesmanship ( vtyuhivat )
2. A man came over Aivazovsky , and he was convinced that Bob Lozhkin better draws water. So? And this was possible because:
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Сообщение от Laura; 2252391"
able to build an image of the product to the inner world of the client , the person will feel that this picture is spiritually close to him


mihailovoh 11.09.2012 15:39

Laura,

Ability prodavat.chto libo.eto too obuchenie.sposobnosti and talant.Zdes true.

Sell ​​a man not to.chto nuzhno.pochti not likely. (For major consumer goods pokupki.a not of course). Here "vtyuhat" does not have the money prohodit.Chistye te.kto know how to save and spend.

Кирилл Сызранский 11.09.2012 16:39

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Сообщение от Laura (Сообщение 2252391)
privedennyy But my method is good for him, because here everything is dependent on the level of the seller.

Not suitable.

You, sorry, not in the subject art trade and nothing here trying to tell something about it.


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