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Кирилл Сызранский 19.05.2009 10:51

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Сообщение от artcritic (Сообщение 392866)
And how that information is an angel, and not just youth? What osnovyvaetsya this conclusion??

I also gave details on this figure. I hope you like artkritik have known such an organization Foundation Pedretti? This information is everywhere, and this figure has been known for hundreds of years ...
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Сообщение от artcritic (Сообщение 392866)
This is not a drawing by Leonardo, and some kind of sleaze, it would be seen once the master's hand, and then some inconsistencies. Roughly drawn

Sorry, but you or nickname change to a more appropriate or really try to find answers to their questions themselves first. Literature is all. It is possible and the Internet, there is pohlesche see the pictures.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392686)
Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), "Angel in the flesh", 1513-1515, the black chalk or charcoal on blue paper,
268 × 197 mm. German private collection. At the Conservation Fund Pedretti, Los Angeles, California, USA.


Buscador 19.05.2009 10:54

Ladies and gentlemen! While reading your attacks on me and was going to answer Semen Semenovich ahead of me. And, actually, nothing more to add. Everyone thank you very much! "Square" there (as the Pythagorean theorem) - this is a given. And the attitude will each their ...

artcritic 19.05.2009 11:01

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392896)
Sorry, but you or nickname change to a more appropriate or really try to find answers to their questions themselves first. Literature is all. It is possible and the Internet, there is pohlesche see the pictures.

I understand you do not have a personal opinion and the opinion you trust someone, I understand that Leonardo drew these boys, etc. But this is not about "rearing member" at the moment but the figure in particular, that made me a mixed reaction, I do not mean just the sexual organ that led me astray and that the figure

Кирилл Сызранский 19.05.2009 11:01

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 392906)
all thank you very much! "Square" there (as the Pythagorean theorem) - this is a given. And the attitude will each their ...

As a theorem ...
For example, I do not remember it. Something about "pants" there seems ...
Vobschem, complete nonsense, and not a theorem ... : D: D: D
However, with this assertion, I can not show up at the forum matimatikov, perhaps, but I'm there and not go there knowledge needed ... : shy:

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Сообщение от artcritic (Сообщение 392916)
But it is not about "rearing member" at the moment but the figure in particular, that made me a mixed reaction, I do not mean just the sexual organ that led me astray and that the picture

And you lot nerastirazhirovannyh drawings by Leonardo saw can make a comparative analysis? What exactly lead you astray? Share your thoughts with specialists Fund Pedretti, who have spent decades working with the originals, and they spend on this work, millions of dollars. They will be interesting. I can not.

Buscador 19.05.2009 11:09

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392926)
However, with this assertion, I can not show up at the forum matimatikov, perhaps, but I go there and not go there knowledge needed ...

This is what you are referring to, that my knowledge is not enough to appear on this forum (with you)! It's cruel!

artcritic 19.05.2009 11:12

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392926)
A lot of you nerastirazhirovannyh drawings by Leonardo saw can make a comparative analysis? What exactly lead you astray? Share your thoughts with specialists Fund Pedretti, who have spent decades working with the originals, and they spend on this work, millions of dollars. They will be interesting. I can not.

Just do not be offended and immediately dislike me, I'm strictly a personal opinion, but I've seen enough pictures to express their opinion and I understand very well that my opinion is worthless, but I wanted to say it. You can close this issue of trust fund and I in turn agree with them right and your opinions. But all the same I have the right to assume that something is wrong in this picture, and tell me that it will have to write separate outraged, but that nobody wants.

SAH 19.05.2009 11:55

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich (Сообщение 392886)
Do you really think. that the most intelligent and accessible only to you the depth of knowledge! I think that Hurray! will be, when you realize that there are different points of view. And whose true - issue professional, philosophical and personal predilections ...

In fact, it would be not bad:), the availability of the depth of knowledge say. I have long know about the existence of different points of view, this is just a saying. The man wanted to understand and I say that when you realize that it will be possible at this moment to say cheers. No more and no less. And here smarter than everyone else not understand? Buscador I hope I understood correctly.

Mark 19.05.2009 12:16

Vendors vacuum
 
Liked article published in "Expert" has long been true (2007) but perhaps to clarify my opinion a number of issues discussed in this topic. Who read - sorry.

No less interesting than the article itself, and the WMS and more comments on it, I advise you not too lazy to read:)

"The publication of the text below - analysis of market mechanisms and the essence of what is modern art. And the analysis is quite derogatory. On the other whose intransigence could be brushed aside, in the case with Maxim Kantor is not held. Kantor is not an art critic, he art practices, and more than successful - one of the most popular in the world of today's Russian artists. At a recent "Sotheby's, where selling Russian paintings, a dozen works, many times exceeding the declared value, only one was dated fresh" zero "- the work of Cantor, other paintings created in the winners-70-80-x. Exhibitions Cantor held around the world, his paintings are in collections of 22 museums - including the British and the Tretyakov Gallery. In addition, Kantor - author of the landmark novel: his two-volume "Manual of Drawing" was one of the most important literary events of the season 2005/2006, the book is now translated into English, French, Romanian, Polish, Bulgarian, Portuguese, Italian (Feltrinelli, they say, specially flew to Moscow acquaintance) "...

The article itself HERE: http://www.expert.ru/printissues/exp...davcy_vakuuma/
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Material already published Eugene prompted Cyril Syzransky, but the rest reference for those who have not read yet. then from this position, you can go: http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=33

Кирилл Сызранский 19.05.2009 12:42

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 393036)
Who is reading - sorry.

Yes, it was already here.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=33

Mark 19.05.2009 18:21

Love and dollars
 
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Thomas Krens: Oleg Kulik, Anatoly Chubais in one person:)
The material here:

http://kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=1164077


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