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Konstantin 07.02.2009 10:06

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Originally Posted by Samvel
I think O. Rabin, and E Bulatov, it is clearly harmed.
Very strange idea. Exhibition Rabin was excellent. And just helped promote the artist, if he needs of course. Excellent opportunity to see how art changed over time. The difference in quality, like I said before that the only valuable earlier, Soviet-era work, but on vysavke me alive and French period very much. And interest in the exhibition showed a Number of people like to visit it.
A poor artist exhibitions are harmful, that's for sure.

Veronic 07.02.2009 21:24

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 212606)

Here is how this consideration affects the rating of Russia is an artist. We may take part in the exhibitions is not particularly personally proplachivaya ... Dating, etc. Often the amount is not connected not so much with the quality, namely, the "interesting" the most creative thought involved "for the directory, so to say ...

I was thinking approach to exhibition activity is in the West. And with this statement (Number of exhibitions) and I met in France and Austria. By the way, if a European artist is rarely exposed, and about its existence, no one knows it and interest in it especially will not.
If you have in mind the artists in Moscow and their participation in the Moscow exhibition, then yes, I agree with you.

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 213196)
all this is true, but only if the artist himself from nothing predstavlyaet.Raskruchivat artist \ this \ mean to harm him, I repeatedly wrote about it. And all of the above can be attributed to promotion of any product, well, like candy or yogurt.

It is only your opinion, I think that many do not agree with him.

Самвел 07.02.2009 22:02

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 215266)
It's only your opinion, I think that many do not agree with him.

The mere fact that you do not say that I am talking nonsense, is already well, and even if some people think so, as I do, it is not lost. in fact consider, what is the meaning raskrutki.eto not offer, which lies on polke.i man himself decides to take him or not, this imposition that-be seen by a large number chelovek.chtob-would it be electable place, everything is done to to enjoy most, and the fact that like most, it is clearly nonsense, I think even here The high agree. Now artists want to cram in a process where demand creates supply in the art all naooborot.

Veronic 07.02.2009 22:11

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 215336)
Today, artists want to cram in a process where demand creates supply in the art all naooborot.

Yes, in the art of the opposite. But, under the commerce today comes everything. For example, Leonardo's Mona Lisa, you were in the Louvre? We saw that in this museum, too, there are ads? You know that just from the entrance set of arrows indicates where the Mona Lisa hangs? I think that this picture certainly does not need to be advertised but a surprising number of posters, too, the audience shouted, "here she MONA LISA Come and see only her."
And if Klimt replicated on plates, mugs, bags .... surely he was of the less great?

Самвел 07.02.2009 22:38

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 215346)
You have been in the Louvre

Net.chestno confess I've never been anywhere except in Moscow and the small town Stepanekerta that in Karabakh.
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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 215346)
a surprising number of posters, too, the audience shouted, "here she MONA LISA Come and see only her."

Who will cry, do not think that the art connoisseurs, and the crowd that should look at Djakonda, or Klimt, and nothing without feeling, but to pretend that this is fine. The same is advertised on television, this is Tide and oriel, they can not be distinguished from Djakonda. I even say that they are already fed up with me personally. I mean Djakonda, or kiss Klimt.

Veronic 07.02.2009 22:44

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 215356)
  The same is advertised on television, this is Tide and oriel, they can not be distinguished from Djakonda.

This is an interesting view:)

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 215356)
Who will cry, do not think that the art connoisseurs, and the crowd that should look at Djakonda, or Klimt, and nothing without feeling, but to pretend that this is fine.

Why do you say about the crowd, and so generalizes? And there are many in the crowd of admirers.

Самвел 07.02.2009 22:46

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 215376)
This is an interesting opinion

Well, what you expect from a man who was not in the Louvre?

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 215376)
Why do you say about the crowd, and so generalizes? And there are many in the crowd of admirers

This ad is not for connoisseurs, because this hype, there should be an insult to a thinking man. It is for people who do not care for this product, if they did, would the same thing but instead Djakonda, post-have some sort of masterpiece Nikas Safronov, and made-to as many ads as I assure you there will be too overcrowded, because the one without raznitsy.lish to say they had seen.

Артём 07.02.2009 22:55

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 215346)
And if Klimt replicated on plates, mugs, bags .... surely he was of the less great?

Talent will always find its way. I remember watching /Christ /El Greco in Prague in the Royal Palace - a picture is building. Nothing you can say! In this sense!

Кирилл Сызранский 07.02.2009 23:46

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 215396)
if they did, would the same thing but instead Djakonda, post-have some sort of masterpiece of Nikas Safronov, and made-to as many ads, I assure you there will also be pandemonium

"There" is in the Louvre?
Since labor is pandemonium reopen the picture (about paintings S and not talking) N. Safronov.

Samvel, what you are harsh to the people!

iosif 08.02.2009 11:26

will not complicate
 
"Promotion" (I prefer the term "promotion") has at least two essential aspects of the artist:
1. Elementary information "general public" that the there is such an artist.
Strange is, if denied the importance of this aspect. As they say, no body - no case. Although this saying is related to an entirely different profession:)
2. Treatment of attention of the unprepared audienceon the creative and investment "weight" of the author.
Here, of course, can take place "brainwashing." But, as elsewhere, strong minds take note of the information, but washing will not succumb.

I assert that both these aspects need the artist, if he is not opposed to commercial success. If opposed to - let him do in the cave, and immediately after the creation of the work of his burns. Commercial failure is guaranteed.

As for "artistic achievements", the promotion has to do with it.

P.S. Written and himself a little adjusting. All the same matter. From my own experience: the artist, who had no commercial success (in my opinion, very talented) just stopped writing, because materials cost money, but children must be fed.


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