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Самвел 08.12.2012 16:53

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2377331)
Board

Cardboard, dense, artistic, Soviet.

Ivan Petrov 08.12.2012 18:13

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2374801)
Realism is so vast and vseobemlyuschee phenomenon that does not require protection or excuse. It is even an international phenomenon Soviet artists have made a huge contribution to the art world and created his own unique style .

see German painting 1933-1945 gg

answer the question - why the so-called "unique style" socialist realism is confusingly similar to the art of the Third Reich?

Pavel 08.12.2012 19:20

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2377051)
What, is haunted by Samara? :)> Samara - "replacement capital" remind.
I understand you, Astrakhan, a native of Moscow claimed to be not very successful, but you are not complex, often remember countryman Kustodiev. :D>

It is necessary to understand a little bit where, what and how much is sold.
Bright thing with history, with interesting ekspozitsionnnoy fate and even a collection of G. Kostakis should cause concern, and, respectively, and bargaining - hence 2.2 million rubles (70,180 USD) and flowers for $ 20 025.
Compare for yourself, you do artist:

In pervh a bad painting, practically it is not. This is altogether different Rabin in the collection and one without. Kostakis is so long ... How many times have devalued it for this time. Old news. I repeat, but the mud in the west Rabin was never interested in all it especially for our internal use. Come true with it unmarketable. Very interesting to anyone who sells and who buys :)> At these prices I doubt that it's a secret. I wonder how much he is selling its author, to whom. Sotheby's is the first exposed as naduvatelsky known and even the mechanism. Links to Sotheby's and Christie's are not legitimate.
I said that Sotheby's sold vSamare because there chyato you think translate capital. :)> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> So I understand your hint.
Astrakhan beautiful city. Fiction for a long time. I'm afraid that your beshennopiskovtsy mutilated this beautiful city. Van Gogh was from a provincial town, and their main job is done in a similar to Astrakhan Arles, are not capital. Judging by what my studio, I'm not a bad account, so lepites to a frenzied pussy bridge you missed. :)>
I wanted to ask, where in the free market have pictures of famous Soviet artists?

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Сообщение от Ivan Petrov (Сообщение 2377451)
look German Painting 1933-1945 gg

answer the question - why the so-called "Unique style" socialist realism is confusingly similar to the art of the Third Reich?

Very similar, especially Deineka, Nyssa, Gerasimov and Gerasimov. Recovery is also quite. Especially like Kustodiev and Grabar. Quite like Malevich and Chagall.
You first need to examine the issue, but it turns out stupidity :)>
Boring and therefore continue. A group of American artists led by Green, those who have "Rural idyll", engaged in direct pro-fascist stance, were fascists. A group of French artists Vlaminck, etc. We went to 42 in Berlin admire fascist art. I'm such of our artists do not remember, remind. Our social realism was the answer to the sweet ladies boudoir and stems from the traditions of the Academy, which was known under German influence and the influence of Italian Renaissance art. It is up to now.
If you know more ARHP on comparative examples. Portryasite!

Кирилл Сызранский 08.12.2012 19:30

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2377561)
Kostakis is so long ...
How many times have devalued it for this time.

Who is that "is" and that " devalues ​​"?

Pavel 08.12.2012 19:51

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2377591)
Who is that "is" and that " devalues ​​"?
No need to remember a great Sue and become close to them , even in the same sentence. :D> And even more so , to compare the situation of European XIX century Dutch post-war SSSRom .

Because the socialist realism and Nazi art is the essence of totalitarian art .

Kostakis Collection .
Why not compare , and who seeks to prevent and why unattainable height? Maybe this is unattainable for you , and every artist in the knapsack a marshal's baton , and nothing to do with you , you're from the other side.

artcol 08.12.2012 19:53

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2377561)
During pervh a bad painting, practically it is not. This is altogether different Rabin in the collection and one without. Kostakis is so long ... How many times have devalued it for this time. Old news. I repeat, but the mud in the west Rabin was never interested in all it especially for our internal use. Come true with it unmarketable. Very interesting to anyone who sells and who buys :)> At these prices I doubt that it's a secret. I wonder how much he is selling its author, to whom. Sotheby's is the first exposed as naduvatelsky known and even the mechanism. Links to Sotheby's and Christie's are not legitimate.
I said that Sotheby's sold vSamare because there chyato you think translate capital. :)> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> So I understand your hint.
Astrakhan beautiful city. Fiction for a long time. I'm afraid that your beshennopiskovtsy mutilated this beautiful city. Van Gogh was from a provincial town, and their main job is done in a similar to Astrakhan Arles, are not capital. Judging by what my studio, I'm not a bad account, so lepites to a frenzied pussy bridge you missed. :)>
I wanted to ask, where in the free market have pictures of famous Soviet artists?

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Very similar, especially Deineka, Nyssa, Gerasimov and Gerasimov. Recovery is also quite. Especially like Kustodiev and Grabar. Quite like Malevich and Chagall.
You first need to examine the issue, but it turns out stupidity :)>
Boring and therefore continue. A group of American artists led by Green, those who have "Rural idyll", engaged in direct pro-fascist stance, were fascists. A group of French artists Vlaminck, etc. We went to 42 in Berlin admire fascist art. I'm such of our artists do not remember, remind. Our social realism was the answer to the sweet ladies boudoir and stems from the traditions of the Academy, which was known under German influence and the influence of Italian Renaissance art. It is up to now.
If you know more ARHP on comparative examples. Portryasite!

No, they really look like, if we talk about the Soviet totalitarian (Stalinist) period.

Pavel 08.12.2012 19:53

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Сообщение от Ivan Petrov (Сообщение 2377451)
look German Painting 1933-1945 gg


answer the question - why the so-called
"Unique style" socialist realism is confusingly similar to the art of the Third Reich?


Please to show the comparative examples, and then from boltovniushi wither.

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2377711)
No, they really look like , if we talk about the Soviet totalitarian ( Stalinist ) period .

Give examples of descriptive .
One thing to German school academy , and another reflection of ideological dogmas. I can think of totalitarian behavior COP puskami it on the site, almost thousand-year Reich . :)>

Кирилл Сызранский 08.12.2012 20:08

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2377701)
Kostakis Collection.

Much of the collection G. Kostakis now on permanent display at the State Tretyakov Gallery, the Crimean shaft.

artcol 08.12.2012 20:10

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2377721)
Show please on the comparative examples , and then from boltovniushi wither.

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Give examples of descriptive .
One thing to German school academy , and another reflection of ideological dogmas. I can think of totalitarian behavior COP puskami it on the site, almost thousand-year Reich . :)>

Paul , you're on the Internet, and could do a search engine to type in something like Nazi Germany [/URL]

Pavel 08.12.2012 20:25

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2377801)
Much of the collection G. Kostakis was it presented to the Soviet Union and is now on permanent display on the Crimean shaft TG - " Dar Kostakis ".
You have , unfortunately, not only is there no wand, and a backpack even. :)>

When traveling abroad Kostakis forced to leave part of the collection , which would be allowed to take the other part. Kakraz I was when this was discussed kolliziya.Prosto present in another case.
About the backpack and the wand I can tell you that it is not for you, and I still have to work nalichii.Urovni different and you do not соответствующая.Занимайтесь political consultant and collect albums. Art without any cost.


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