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I-V 17.04.2011 16:34

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 1597981)
That 's it. But shpynyat artists under the guise of art dealers here a lot

If this were a medical forum , our conversation would have sounded something like this :) :

- Do not treat yourself , it's pointless and even dangerous . To do this, there are doctors

- Physicians - a local invention

- No , not fiction : http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Врач

- How many people have you cured ?

- I'm not a doctor .

- Exactly . But shpynyat patients under the guise of doctors here a lot .

Pavel 17.04.2011 17:12

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 1597993)
If it was a medical forum , our conversation would have sounded something like this :) :

- Do not treat yourself , it's pointless and even dangerous . To do this, there are doctors

- Physicians - a local invention

- No , not fiction : http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Врач

- How many people have you cured ?

- I'm not a doctor .

- Exactly . But shpynyat patients under the guise of a lot of doctors here .

But back to our bikes . Who do you know who are already hyped galereyschiki ?
Even this site there is so much that it's time to be the result .
And once again , the dealer is a middleman . Who bought out something so that he became rich ?
Posa correctly says that you should not say something that you do not know exactly.

Бурка 17.04.2011 18:11

"And once again, the dealer is a middleman."


Simple middleman - a bad dealer.
Diller himself develops and tightens the talents of artists to the market, brings to it that they develop and generate revenues themselves and local

Pavel 17.04.2011 18:22

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Сообщение от Burke (Сообщение 1598121)
" And once again , the dealer is a middleman . "

Simple middleman - a bad dealer . Diller himself develops and tightens the talents of artists to the market , brings to it that they develop and generate revenues themselves and dealer

For example ? Himself is his business , let read books , and more specifically . Talented artists are always small and their sraeu see if show , but they can not give the show and lead them into the market as a sheep to the slaughter , on the cheap by buying up these idiots . You call development?

Бурка 17.04.2011 20:06

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 1598141)
example ? Himself is his business , let read books , and more specifically . Talented artists are always small and their sraeu see if show , but they can not give the show and lead them into the market as a sheep to the slaughter , on the cheap by buying up these idiots . You call to evolve ?

Why is it necessary to rush to extremes ( sheep ) ? Dealers , gallery owners can not be cut with the same brush , because not all the " shear " artists, like sheep . The artist must be sold today to work on . Dealer after a few years can sell it more expensive, but pays and runs the risk of it today . It always has been and will be. But this does not change the normal relationship between a seller and a creator, if both are decent people .

Posav 17.04.2011 23:47

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Сообщение от Burke (Сообщение 1598241)
Why do you have to rush to extremes ( sheep ) ? Dealers , gallery owners can not be cut with the same brush , because not all the " shear " artists, like sheep . The artist must be sold today to work on . Dealer after a few years can sell it more expensive, but pays and runs the risk of it today . It always has been and will be. But this does not change the normal relationship between a seller and a creator, if both are decent people .

Where have you seen from a local dealer who had bought and put in a few years ? And how much work he can afford to buy so and to defer ? This can afford any investor who has money to spare , or art collector .

Pavel 18.04.2011 07:45

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Сообщение от Burke (Сообщение 1598241)
Why do you have to rush to extremes ( sheep ) ? Dealers , gallery owners can not be cut with the same brush , because not all the " shear " artists, like sheep . The artist must be sold today to work on . Dealer after a few years can sell it more expensive, but pays and runs the risk of it today . It always has been and will be. But this does not change the normal relationship between a seller and a creator, if both are decent people .

You have not answered the question , and someone who already unwound . Who are these " dealers , gallery owners " bought to sell, and generally what market do you represent?

artcol 18.04.2011 08:46

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 1598951)
You did not answer the question, and someone who already unwound.
Who are these "dealers, gallery owners" bought to sell, and generally what market you represent?

Paul, I buy on a regular basis with 2 living and working artists.
This is true for all the Volga region.
Of the two hundred otsmotrennyh.

Pavel 18.04.2011 11:28

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1599011)
Paul, I buy on a regular basis with 2 living and working artists.
This is true for all the Volga region.
Of the two hundred otsmotrennyh.

Contracts and abide by the treaty?
And then sell?
Where and how?

artcol 18.04.2011 14:24

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 1599121)
is and keep an agreement?
And then sell?
Where and how?

Yes, of course.
And all the negotiations and sale of a video or audio recording - you never know what the artist imagined it, you can always bring in his own defense.


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