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яков 30.12.2009 00:36

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 825232)
I watched "The Prussian" (1837) and "German" (1868) noble lexicons and "handbook of the Prussian nobility" (1892), the names of C. f.. M. No, and in Prussia did not mention the nobles Stein.

Thank you very much! Your information, at least, cuts off a branch of the search.

Кирилл Сызранский 30.12.2009 00:40

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 823092)
Professor Stein von Memel "inscription in pencil on stretcher

Well you, someone joked not successful, and you build on that joke of a name lookup portrayed.
And if there was written Ben Stein, Rabbi Shlomo from Kovno ? A? :D

яков 30.12.2009 01:10

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 825302)
Okay you, someone joked not successful, and you build on that joke name lookup portrayed.
And if there was written Ben Stein, Rabbi Shlomo from Kovno ? A? :D

The work itself is very high quality, artist - Academician I.A.H. be seen that relates to work carefully, for this hardly someone or joking inscriptions on podramnike.Tem more than that, in fact, not who did not need to''strengthen ' 'now or what extravagant nadpisyami.Mozhno general, in principle, to miss this inscription, but from what then push off, not even imagine.

K-Maler 30.12.2009 01:41

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 825342)
Using the Fn itself is very high quality, artist - Academician I.A.H. be seen that relates to work carefully, for this hardly someone or joking inscriptions on a stretcher

With an increase in right on the glass cabinet are seen some letters (?).

Деко 30.12.2009 02:03

Many noble families are tied to the owner thereof of his possessions. In the German lands is the background, the French - de. The same thing - of.
Many Russian noble families have the same origin - Trubetskois, Rzhevski, Mechsherskie. After the accession of Ukraine to Russia local Ukrainian gentry, following the example reigning Russian names, too, formed their names from the area where lived.

яков 30.12.2009 09:47

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 825382)
With an increase in right on the glass cabinet are seen some letters (?).

Unfortunately nothing discernible on the glass no.

Allena 30.12.2009 10:28

yak, at the Lviv you better than refer to Stanislavsky. Perhaps he could clarify something.

яков 30.12.2009 15:14

A. Stein was born in St. Petersburg in the family professor of dermatology AK Stein
 and from 1951 to 1970 - Lviv Medical Institute
I can not find his father's middle name - Professor AK .... Shteyna.Pomogite please, and if his photo - all beautiful view.
Lviv Institute clarifies the previous location of the work in Lviv.
http://www.biografija.ru/show_bio.aspx?id=131213

Amateur 30.12.2009 15:28

Professor AK Stein was from 1925 to 1945 head. Department of Dermatology 2 nd Leningrad Medical Institute (1949 - Sanitary, since 1993 - SPbGMA IIMechnikov) See: http://forum.mechnik.spb.ru/viewtopic. php? p=50712
I think that in order to clarify the information about it would you could ask a question on this forum. That just does not understand, and here Memel? Perhaps another Stein?

раскатов 30.12.2009 15:35

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 824522)
It seems to me particularly believe in the'cause'of doctors do not have to,.

. There is a book PB Zhuravsky. List of doctors of the USSR. In 1925 it listed six doctors under the name of Stein, but with the prefix Von der, no.

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 825942)
A. A. Stein was born in St. Petersburg in the family professor of dermatology AK Stein
 and from 1951 to 1970 - Lviv Medical Institute
I can not find his father's middle name - Professor AK .... Shteyna.Pomogite please, and if his photo - all beautiful view.
Lviv Institute clarifies the previous location of the work in Lviv.
http://www.biografija.ru/show_bio.aspx?id=131213

Professor Stein's name was Alexander Konstantinovich.
Russian researcher Pavlovsky, who taught comparative anatomy at the Military Medical Academy in Leningrad, many dealt with the problem of poisonous animals. He did this in part one, part, together with the same outstanding specialist in this area, AK Stein, director of the main clinic in Leningrad. So, in southern Russia usual tarantula spider, which, like the scorpion, known for its virulence. When Pavlovsky heard once that in southern Russia from the bite of a tarantula dead soldiers - however, later it is not confirmed - he decided that it was necessary to examine the toxicity of a tarantula. In 1929, he worked with Professor Stein fulfilled this intention. A medical student has agreed for the sake of the experiment to put a tarantula on his chest. The experience was repeated several times, and it turned out that the spider can not bite through human skin

яков 30.12.2009 16:00

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 825982)
where here Memel? Perhaps another Stein?

Perhaps another, and Memel be Qaim a nickname, a joke, sarcasm whose libo.Prosto in this case, though what it hits, the artist and Stein - at the same time are in Peter Stein - Professor and doctor, the son of a Stein works from 1951 - 70 in Lviv where he was found kartina.V any case, thank you! try the forum you specified cajole photo professor.

Allena 30.12.2009 16:06

In 1947, in Leningrad was the retrospective exhibition Bobrovsky. Does anyone know anything about the catalog? Although, almost certainly, this picture was not there.

James, as well as got this picture of the previous owners? You did not try to dig provenance? I think that you are in one or two steps away from the family image of the face. While hardly the picture is often passed from hand to hand.

Generally speaking, we should look in Lviv Stein family. In 1971, his son was alive and by that time many years he lived in Lviv, little time had passed, so it is likely that in Lviv is his family.

яков 30.12.2009 16:51

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 826082)
but as this picture came to the previous owners? You did not try to dig provenance?

Probyval konechno.Delo that the work I preobrel people who were directly involved [though not akin] to Lvivsky collector Martyneku which apparently no longer in zhivyh.Voobsche this story many, many years, so what the facts and could get entangled in the memory lyudey.Spasibo.

redbor 30.12.2009 18:44

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 823092)
Signed left bottom
Professor Stein von Memel »

yak, so this inscription, we can not see?
It really is? Maybe with Memele some confusion?
Perhaps the portrait of Rubinstein (Stein)?

redbor 30.12.2009 18:55

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Сообщение от rolls (Сообщение 826002)
Professor Stein's name was Alexander K.

[Archive FSB RF LO, № 12517, pp. 148-153] The point Leningrad Masons in 1926.
Svidetelm passed Stein, Alexander Konstantinovich
genus. 11/03/1874 in St. Petersburg, a doctor at ELAM II;
lived in Leningrad at: Plekhanov 52, apt. 6
Archive RAS http://www.ras.ru/lvkomarovarchive/4...w.aspx?id=2211
Case number 1633: Stein, Alexander Konstantinovich. MD, Ph.D., professor of skin and venereal diseases. Leningrad.


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