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Пулемётчик Ганс 26.12.2014 16:57

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 3323021)
Wrap traffic - Yes, it is important. But even more important is to collect high-quality material. For example, to lure managed, and the site has reached the collector. What's next? He should at least discover things collectible level, affordable prices, and to gain trust to the place of purchase.

The work is very serious, I agree. Especially on the part of the independent evaluation, there are many copies will be broken "..left the army left the army.." .
For example, I work only with the artist. Addresses many can't get.

Aquarius 26.12.2014 17:03

[QUOTE=Кирилл Сызранский;3322571]Aquarius on the website table of contents looks like this:
NEW/TOP/ART/GRAPHICS/DESIGN/PAINTING/POSTERS/PRINTS/PICTURES.
I think You are not quite of the above figured out. What is ART separately, for example? And what, in Your opinion, are the prints from photos and posters? Looked into the DESIGN, and there's some dpi@

The classification was changed several times, but have so far not found the ideal option. In General, it should reflect the specific interests of visitors, so a bit clumsy Painting (tradizionnaya) separated from Art (contemporary), and Posters (cheap copies of papers or posters that can be propagated indefinitely) and Prints (full transfer paintings on canvas or limited copyright series) received individual menu items.

Pictures and Design while as an experiment, they may not really fit into the concept.

Aquarius 26.12.2014 17:12

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 3323021)
Wrap traffic - Yes, it is important. But even more important is to collect high-quality material. For example, to lure managed, and the site has reached the collector. What's next?

Actually, it was the theme. The underlying technical implementation of the idea is ready, it can be felt, the primary content of the work produced, we had to develop mechanisms to issue something more or less interesting and on top of that the site has not been rejected outright by the slag from the first sight.

Now I would like to understand what things are most important at the next stage - how best to organize search quality work, whether to go to the artists themselves, or to connect the gallery?

Is it enough to focus on contemporary artists of Russia, or should we look towards the antique works to develop the secondary market, foreign authors?

Issues with delivery until lie on the shoulders of the authors, but over time we plan to take it on themselves to organize something like a showroom and carry the works with a guarantee of security, at least in Moscow and the Moscow region.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.12.2014 17:41

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 3323111)
But artnow and this site can compete, isn't it?

No, of course not. Only in the category "Painting" presents 4225 artists 238366 works. Only painting!
And now I'm just on the first page you see artist Berdysheva and 171 work. Is there something similar or at least the same level to discuss the website?

[QUOTE="John Preston;3323111"]Can I something nedoponimaju@
Alas, it seems so.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.12.2014 17:46

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Сообщение от Aquarius (Сообщение 3323161)
or worth watching in the direction of antique works to develop the secondary market, foreign authors?

And as Antiques will be delivered to the buyers? And where Antiques will take? Or just pictures of these things on the website show will be?

Aquarius 26.12.2014 18:42

[QUOTE=John Preston;3323071]
And the site is quite attractive - concoret kupitkartinu, and artnow TD@

We would like to implement the concept of supervised marketplace work can place all the artists, but the curators with the help of the community to celebrate the best in order to interested buyers not need to see tons of ore.

Cupiditatis at first sight focused on a narrow audience of collectors, we rather aim at the mass of interest.

From Russian sites love Oily Oil.

Vladimir 26.12.2014 18:52

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Сообщение от Aquarius (Сообщение 3323161)
Now I would like to understand what things are most important at the next stage - how best to organize search quality work,

There is no universal recipe. But some people who have turned out, had decided this question. Sought or out with friends for a few private collections, which owners were ready to sell. Ran trade, stars in the sky are not grabbing, but showed sales. So some time lived on these collections. Then, seeing that they have actually sold, they started coming new sellers (owners of objects). It has gradually started to "drift" willing to sell. It is important that all owners themselves well versed in the art, prices and soberly assessed the ability of buyers.

Aquarius 26.12.2014 19:03

[QUOTE=Кирилл Сызранский;3323191]No, of course not. At artnow only in the category "Painting" presents 4225 artists 238366 works. Only painting!

Is there something similar or at least the same level to discuss the website?

Alas, it seems that TAC@

Kirill, to compare Artnow, Galleria on cipherkam yet.

Yes and I am not sure I am that we actually need all these 300 thousand works.

The minimum task now is to draw on a regular basis interesting authors and give them a good "shelf" at the showcase. I don't think this is possible at all, if you add work to the site hundreds and thousands per month.

Aquarius 26.12.2014 19:07

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Сообщение от Кирилл Сызранский (Сообщение 3323201)
And antique items will be delivered to the buyers? And where is that Antiques will take? Or just pictures of these things on the website show will be?

Antiques, yet do not plan. Infrastructure for sales of paintings with historical value more or less formed, there is a constant demand and connoisseurs.

Interesting to discover new names, to work with the mass consumer, to develop new market segments.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.12.2014 19:28

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Сообщение от Aquarius (Сообщение 3323321)
least Task now is to draw on a regular basis interesting authors and give them a good "shelf" at the showcase. I don't think this is possible at all, if you add work to the site hundreds and thousands per month.

What about the hundreds You say? There five works decent, not look - debris Yes Amateur, toxic, from this material vomiting starts in three minutes of viewing.
You are so far from the art that I don't even understand what is "interesting authors. You Amateur and the same collective self-activity on the website.

"The work is done in the technique of pyrography (burning wood) plywood" - that's all... :D

artcol 26.12.2014 19:43

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Сообщение от Кирилл Сызранский (Сообщение 3323381)
what hundreds You say? There five works decent, not look - debris Yes Amateur, toxic, these works on the site" vomiting starts in three minutes of viewing.
You are so far from the art that I don't even understand what is "interesting authors. You Amateur and the same collective self-activity on the site pull.

"The work is done in the technique of pyrography (burning wood) plywood" - that's all... :D
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Kolesik,nacole me dome
Near miraculous cross icons
that played there with bells
with modulations and perezvonami@ :cool:

You are so vain. People want to filter the content with the help of curators.

Aquarius 26.12.2014 20:30

[QUOTE=Кирилл Сызранский;3323381]what hundreds You say? There five works decent, not look - debris Yes Amateur, toxic, these works on the site" vomiting starts in three minutes prosmotra@

Cyril, what is decent work? On the main Artnow, for example, now painted hanging feeder:

http://artnow.ru/ru/gallery/8/7789/p.../0/786975.html

This is more of an art object than the icon in the technique pirografii?

[QUOTE=Кирилл Сызранский;3323381]You are so far from the art that I don't even understand what is "interesting authors. You Amateur and the same collective self-activity on the website tanate@

Artists come to the site yourself, we are only minimal work was conducted to raise the top something more or less worthy of collection.

When you begin to purposefully seek to attract and work with authors, quantity and quality of work should change dramatically.

As for the art - and I do not set a goal of collecting masterpieces of proven provenance and eye criticism.

Wladzislaw 26.12.2014 22:22

[QUOTE="Aquarius;3323501"]I do not set a goal of collecting masterpieces of proven provenance and eye kritika@

Wrong target.

You're probably a programmer. Try to find someone who understands art and in business.

Aquarius 26.12.2014 22:57

[QUOTE=Wladzislaw;3323661]Wrong target.

You're probably a programmer. Try to find someone who understands art and a little biznesie@

Then we solve a specific task. For example, let's create another auction :-)

I was on business goals and repelled. Selling art is not those who are carefully studying the results of all passing Biennale, and more to the public, which, for lack of better now broadcasts posters from IKEA on the wall.

Wladzislaw 27.12.2014 00:18

[QUOTE="Aquarius;3323701"]which, for lack of better now broadcasts posters from IKEA on Steny@

So you have no alternative.

You would site figured out and about the auction after.


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