acetate, fully fixed left on decent sales and auctions .. quietly currently being featured long.

Fixing process sales decent auctions (who are interested in it) is automatic, falshakov including .. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

What kind of system , which really is not necessary? And you look at sales results would Alexei Stepanov or Stanislav Zhukovsky ... about what criteria you say. Often one criterion real or not, and 75%or 95%true - it does not happen .

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Agreed. But the little red circles (indicators ) is still on - artinvest are sometimes caught. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> Yes, and publish catalogs of counterfeit spare ... And of course this will not be engaged , that they recognize that sell fakes.

Criterion investment attractiveness consists of expert assessment and sales history , exhibitions , publications, works , the sheer quality of the product in terms of its artistic value, authenticity, in this system again. Identifying counterfeit market is not necessary, if demand exceeds supply . It harms the reputation of even the affected person , as he will have to admit that he bought a fake or poor quality work.

Well, as soon as the theme from " The Russian museum against Benoit " turned into a discussion on pravomenrnosti expertise ...
Also will state : without examination - anywhere! Examination only need a professional and responsible ( in all senses)

But arguments such as :


What is the "official site of the artist "? ? ?
- 's Still alive or artist 's Fund , which blyudut heirs - they are fakes publikyut ?
- Auction site which publishes all sold works on the principle of " seen , inspected, bought "?
- Or poster lovers /fans of the artist, where the audience , all the left leg wants ( the love of art , of course)

And here the examination ? ? ?

in Europe , in quantity and quality , and sell ten times more paint than in Russia .
I can safely say that the price range up to 50,000 euros, 99.99%of the painting changes the owner without any certificate.
The lion's share of work with a price tag of 50,000 euros is also sold without a certificate - provenance plays a significant role .
Therefore agree :
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partially see the problem of illiteracy and ignorance .

If the real collector and lover of painting closely interested in particular artist , goes looking to study biographies , analyzes , compares the information , etc. , it is not necessary certificate . No there is nothing clever , if you stupidly dismiss all controversial work .
By itself, a certificate for " optics " or "chemistry " , especially alone says nothing.
For example, Nikolai Petrovich Bogdanov-Belsky .
During his career he wrote in a dozen different styles, from the realism of the Wanderers , through the " peeping " at different Frenchmen to their 3 -4x typical , in 20-30 years. Wrote works in Russian museums immigration little. He was terribly popular in Europe , primarily through the subject ( kids ) . Postcards and reproductions of his works published in all European countries , reproductions hung in kindergartens and shkolax . In 1943 , with the filing of the ideologists of the Wehrmacht, published a picture book with his works , quote: " only for internal sales in the Wehrmacht under the support of the troops ." All because of the kids .
And this is despite the artist's life.
Without straining your imagination, we can say that during the life of the artist, was written a huge number of copies.
In general, the " chemistry" does not help, only if the " chemistry" signature when perelitsovke .
Oh, and " optics" is not better with so many styles, in which the artist worked , you can explain to anything.
However, serious student of his work , no doubt, after 30 seconds of inspection live, say firmly , original or is suspected .

not knowing ford .. do not go in the water ..

You never know what anyone in these byakogo eurogroin ... They be - shame not robbed !
And about the provenance and history on our way, and there is a story here ... And what - grandfather, grandmother , folder, nurse during the war, hostilities, release took this picture as a trophy in golimye enemy and hanging it on the wall then stoich native land as the pride of all our relatives here already ..... years.
Who does not like the story - the enemy .
Definitely !

in Europe , I love to fly , and in the States , too - just more profitable than in Russia.
That's when Russia will learn how to trade in Europe , according to quantity and quality,

A quote Potem must adequately :

Do not ignore the connection between Russian and foreign markets.

 We are probably spinning in different market segments . Normal market fakes always hurt - the decline in sales , due to the large number of fakes and left evidence . Maybe someone more important than expertise and names ( regardless of quality and thin. Value ) , but for someone more important than authenticity and artistic merits , but for all can not vouch . Old publications and participation in exhibitions of works , of course , too, not today , added confidence in the authenticity , the acquirer , but no it does not affect the artwork itself . Just before exhibitions got the best work naturally and implement them now easier. Now even in the Tretyakov Gallery at personal exhibitions can be seen counterfeit publications even like that and not want to talk . And , gathering acknowledgments and dubious exhibitions - forgery , often sold over the years , that's no problem , " valetovskie " " Lentulova " early " Mashkov " why then whom are not necessary , despite the apparently low prices, but the real work of the same authors sweep at auction for millions. So that different markets and different customers . For example now quite in demand, even in the big collectors not only Deineki and Pimenov , but also less famous artists , and not by weak prices , they have other selection criteria - museum quality , style tune with time , plot, size and of course the first place authenticity. I think better to get a decent product , not the most famous artist than microscopic Pimenov , though the wild prices , yes nedoDeynek on scraps of paper . One unfortunate that little decent work , even those - not the very magnitude and artists. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

here there are pictures: http://www.online812.ru/2014/04/11/016/

Unfortunately we do not see pictures Grigorieva .....
Can not there looking for?

Asked about the pictures from the collection Azadovsky.
Grigorieva about this topic in general did not say, I think.

Well , of course! Sadly , it is necessary to pronounce a little - not - by - syllable . Although the reason is simple - the buyers ( the vast majority ) do not have ( and can not ) own judgment about the quality of work. " Microscopic " , "under " , sketches, sketches, all this material for museum studies . And only.

The amount depends on the amount of money, but quality - the quality of their owner ...

So ..............?

I will not argue with you , but there is litter on the ground floor and on the top , (you can call it sigmente market). Price nowhere yavlyaetsya indicator of the quality product and yavlyaetsya indicator of demand for the product in a specific period of time.