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23.03.2009 13:50

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 278426)
says Koons well and on the merits. This, incidentally, an important criterion when the artist is able to explain why and what he does without laminating and eyes, and feigned fog. If there is an intellectual component, found the idea, but you can not really explain - to the public and collectors is an occasion to reflect.

Why should an artist do something to explain ... When you're finished, the artist quietly step aside and not chattering like a magpie in his jacket, telling neophytes what he meant creating a product.

LCR 23.03.2009 13:54

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 279816)
Why did the artist do something to explain ... When you're finished, the artist quietly step aside and not chattering like a magpie in his jacket, telling neophytes what he meant by creating a work.

Absolutely correct. But this requires that he was engaged in art, and Koons and Kunst - two are incompatible:)

Vladimir 23.03.2009 16:53

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 279816)
When you're finished, the artist quietly step aside and not chattering like a magpie in his jacket, telling neophytes what he meant creating a product.

If an artist does not need a viewer does not need the feedback, it can be. But this is strange. One of the advantages of the acquisition of the Modern Art - the chance to direct dialogue with the artist. If he "stepped aside" or two words can not bind (see interviews with many young), it is reason to doubt the intellectual work done. Even if вешь turned out beautiful.

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 279826)
But you need to he studied art, and Koons and Kunst - two things are incompatible

With some things it's time to accept. Koons is already in history. I noticed how much of it written monographs and published album.

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 279616)
ok, understandable. and the power of his art, then?

For example, in the integrity of the technical realization of artistic conception.

LCR 23.03.2009 17:08

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 280226)
  With some things it's time to accept. Koons is already in history. I noticed how much of it written monographs and published album.

If you step back, so Fortuny was also in history, and how.
Fifteen years ago, "history" was Sandro Kia, but where is he now? Here you, Volodya, you know this artist?

It is clear that in this nedokunsta invested a decent money, just will not let him fall. But let's continue this conversation in 15-20 years (if I live that long, but if not, necessarily fabricated himself some ectoplasm and send it from your response to demand, so that tremble:))

23.03.2009 18:35

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 280226)
I noticed how much of it written monographs and published album.

Design is not taken into account when assessing the work.

IrinaC 23.03.2009 19:28

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 280296)
If you step back, so Fortuny was also in history, and how.
Fifteen years ago, "history" was Sandro Kia, but where is he now? Here you, Volodya, you know this artist?

LCR, not still want to go down in history. Many are happy to live a luxury life in this world, fame, success, money, and building up a no. And what think about it descendants, this is it absolutely will not matter.

Art-lover 23.03.2009 20:07

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 279576)
Do what you want, without regard to what this will say in polite company.

Quite possibly: infrastructure operators Sovrem. art does not have pretensions to be called polite society - they claim only to power.

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 280226)
If an artist does not need a viewer does not need the feedback, it can be. But this is strange. One of the advantages of the acquisition of the Modern Art - the chance to direct dialogue with the artist. If he "stepped aside" or two words can not bind (see interviews with many young), it is reason to doubt the intellectual work done. Even if вешь turned out beautiful.
For example, in the integrity of the technical realization of artistic conception.

In the basic structure of modern art complete communication between a party representing the artist and a party acting as the viewer is not provided, it is only a figure of speech. As to the fiction of a dialogue of the artist and the viewer:
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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 278626)
us ... internal logic of the process functions allocated virtual crowd, whose applause, whistling and stamping their feet to the scene did not hear

Art would be doing mathematics, if the intellectual work was decisive in creating the image. What I saw at Koons "live" - Center Pinchuk, and the photographs - no pin. (Hurst, for example, looks stronger). If we assume here the existence of "the integrity of the technical implementation of artistic conception, one has to note the weakness of the artistic concept.
Could be assumed in advance for Koons in his bosom some fresh concept - which he could bring to an occasion dedicated as a mandate. I understand that Koons was not present at the conference shook originality of thought? His explanation about the inflatable toys were clearly addressed to potential consumers of these works - the white dandelions.

Meister 24.03.2009 11:11

I'll show you another example of why (c) Koons popular.

Take the poem:
Again, I do not see the light.
Light! Where are you? Well, it ...

original rhymes and interesting use of the word "light" twice in a row, change the value of the word, said non-standard thinking about the author.
The drama of the first stanza as it tells us that without Amy mythical author of the "whole world is not nice." Contrasting second stanza hysterical screams of despair of the author. An unusual ending uncertainty emphasizes the simultaneous romanticism, the breadth of the horizon of fantasy an anonymous poet, but also speaks of his innate shyness and intelligence, for both strain and a strong core of erotic poetry hidden behind a modest, though suggestive, "This is ..". is one example of how you can turn a reader's head with dots.

Not Invented me, but very clearly reflects the situation on the market of contemporary art: the feebleness of the most creations and nightingale songs curators, critics, etc.

dedulya37 24.03.2009 12:23

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 281526)
impotence most creations and nightingale songs curators, critics, etc.

In other words, as in the fairy tale about a naked king.

Тютчев 07.04.2010 04:48

Jeff Koons paint artmobil BMW "for life" - in the strip

07/04/201003: 10

NEW YORK, April 7 - RIA Novosti, Larissa Saenko. One of the most expensive and controversial artists of the world, Jeff Koons, on Tuesday introduced the press his design for a sports BMW's famous art collection of the corporation, the correspondent of RIA Novosti.

The sketch is made in the form of collage, which consists of colored bands, a lot of bright colors, producing the impression of high speed and powerful energy.

"Car Racing, like life, they have a lot of force and energy. That's what I wanted to pass, thinking design," - said Koons told reporters.

In his designs, a striped car symbolizes "tunnel of light energy. In this work, the artist's shocking missing part of his creative style phallic symbols. And he himself in a classic suit look like a representative of the business elites, rather than bohemian.

The collection of BMW, consisting of 16 cars, a sports model who painted such renowned artists as Andy Warhol, Robert Rauschenberg, Roy Lichtenstein, Alexander Calder. Last year, BMW has expanded its collection of works by famous mobile Robin Rhoda, known for its "street art".

"We have traditionally been invited to paint artmobili those artists whom we recommend the advice of the most famous museums in the world of contemporary art, and, in particular, the MOMA in New York. Kuhns was the only exception, as proposed to himself," - said Thomas Girst, representative of the BMW Group for cultural projects.

Works conceptual Koons - the quintessence of American popular culture. A successful artist, he had begun at the Museum of Modern Art petty clerk, took the baton from the "father of Pop Art, Warhol, and raised the aesthetics of everyday life in the gigantic scale of his sculptures. Glory he added a short-term marriage with an Italian porn star and politician Cicciolina, as well as erotic focus of the mapping of the world.

"You would say" no "if you came with the proposal itself, Jeff Koons? Naturally, we said" YES, YES, YES "from completely capitalized," - said Girst.

In 2007, the work Koons "Hanging Heart" was sold at auction at Sotheby's in New York for 24 million dollars, raising the sculptor, whom critics have called the "king of kitsch", on top of the price of modern art market.

Premiere painted BMW M3, which is still shining snow-white body, will be held June 1 in Paris, after which artmobil take part in the famous race 24 Hours of Le Mans, which are tested not only on speed but endurance.

"I wanted to describe this car as the embodiment of vital energy", - said Coons RIA Novosti.

http://www.rian.ru/culture/20100407/218851819.html

Vladimir 08.06.2010 12:43

"Beha" from Koons
 
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http://www.gq.ru/lifestyle/article/306520/
By the way, in general, some of the most likable. If a car painted in principle can be called handsome.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.06.2010 14:49

Jeff Koons and BMW in Paris.
 
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Here he is handsome! :)

08.06.2010 18:22

Artist amuses people. People, therefore, it should be, since the money paid. It is not Georgia, and can be at the rich imagination to give meaning - like the fact that here they are, the gods of modernity: inflatable delfinchiki and other Disney-land interspersed with porn. Besides, technology.
  This kind of modification of pop art, in my opinion .:confused:

Кирилл Сызранский 08.06.2010 18:59

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Сообщение от Marta (Сообщение 1140342)
Artist amuses people.

This is a "fun" began in 1975, when racing driver Hervé Poulain asked to paint automobile BMW artist Alexander Calder. Now every year Bavarians give the "dismemberment" to some fashionable modern artist is one of their racing cars: David Hockney, Jenny Holzer, Roy Lichtenstein, Robert Rauschenberg, Frank Stella, Andy Warhol, and so forth. In that year the program BMW Art Car was involved Robin Rhode.
Normal? I like it. Just look:
http://www.bmwdrives.com/bmw-artcars.php

kr555 08.06.2010 19:32

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I especially like the front view, really cool!


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