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Pavel 01.08.2013 15:12

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2695511)
This is a young auction , for a start , even quite good. The first two , they heard , were very hard ...
And yet , the hotel Astoria ... almost like in France - the vote , Paul, undertaking ...
Photo of a well published catalogs and brochures .

It's great ! Auction and should not immediately give great results. It is important to regularity . People will get used to , and will bring , and his paintings . That's when you can expect growth. You can still make repeated auctions are sold in lots of other places easier.

Магнолия 01.08.2013 15:54

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2695541)
in other places easier.


Side by side, in the "Anglitere"!
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K-Maler 02.08.2013 04:19

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2695541)
You still do not re-auction lots sold in other places easier.


I was surprised that have not been claimed nonconformists ...
So many of their fans including myself.
Need a separate auction?

Pavel 02.08.2013 07:41

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2696531)
I was surprised that have not been claimed nonconformists ... So many of their fans including myself . Need a separate auction ?

Non conformists are basically amateurs and worked under the impressions of magazines like America " , then fell behind in the era besides their rather tarnished reputation depreciations .
But this is not important, because it is important for the auction to attract owners and get them to sell their stash . For example, someone comes and brings Aivazovsky, wants to sell uznavchto is expensive. Yes there is one - way , when he is told , but it looks like Aivazovsky and generally could buy it from him for $ 2-3 thousand , or he would not sell it anywhere . The other way - the owner said we will put this job if it will sell nizhi estimate, take off , if we take up with you -so %15%HP , or a variant , 15%on top of the purchaser , and the entire amount to the owner.
You zasyplyut proposals and this percentage can live with that $ 1000000 and with every purchase.
Sorry , this is just my thoughts . You certainly know better .

Aka Petr 02.08.2013 09:04

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Сообщение от K-Maler; 2696531"
I was surprised that have not been claimed nonconformists ... So many of their fans including myself. Need a separate auction?

well, where there were non-conformists? If we take as a non-conformist Figurina (I think it's a small stretch, especially since the work of 1996/1999 the year - there really any non-conformism, but let it be), then, as I mentioned earlier, the price, in my view, is not auction, and quite a gallery-, even at a premium. Today the real work of this kind can be taken in the gallery a little cheaper estimate of the auction, and on the bargaining and considerably cheaper. If it was a Dutch auction, down, then it would be clear <! - ~ 1 ~ -> And so, if started with 120-150, would have an incentive to participate. Zilina? Still not the first series of non-conformists - so 120,000 for the auction, too, in my opinion, cool charged, if started with 70-80, it would be interesting. Gurevich - is not the first name, the work is not bad, but for the auction, too, it seems to me, we had to start with a 70-80, instead of the 120. Kaplan - the graphics, even a very strong, 150 - is, I think, an exhaustive search. And more and nonconformists were not. This means there is no choice involved is not very interesting. And for the phone part - prices are not beckon <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And the fact that it took 27 works - 20%- it's great, of course, one also has to understand at what price - above or below the estimate. But, in any case, well, there are people who find this attractive price level - so it's not that bad with an interest in art <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Pavel 02.08.2013 09:31

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2695511)
This is a young auction, for a start, even quite good.
The first two, they heard, were very hard ...

And yet, the hotel Astoria ...
almost like in France - the vote, Paul, undertaking ...

Photo of a well published catalogs and brochures.

And do not want to publish a cheap-releases issued by the results?

Ilona 02.08.2013 09:54

Dear organizers of the auction!
It would be great if you published the results of the tenders on its website.
Not just a list of lots sold, and prices.

K-Maler 04.08.2013 02:34

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Сообщение от Pavel; 2696611 "
And do not want to publish low - releases issued by the results ?

I do not know all the details , like will publish ... Just not yet " settled down " ... While the interest stirred up by the fact that the prices of many interesting authors are lower than anywhere else ...
Do not know what to postauktsionnymi sales , like, some people suddenly realized that you have to buy , again, there was talk about the crisis , inflation, etc.
And as in other homes with postauktsionnymi sales?

Pavel 04.08.2013 08:49

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2699021)
I do not know all the details , like will publish ... Just not yet " settled down " ... While the interest stirred up by the fact that the prices of many interesting authors are lower than anywhere else ...
Do not know what to postauktsionnymi sales , like, some people suddenly realized that you have to buy , again, there was talk about the crisis , inflation, etc.
And as in other homes with postauktsionnymi sales ?

Interest in the auctions and so heated that you can buy cheaper and sell more expensive, so the most expensive items are advertisements.

K-Maler 04.08.2013 22:08

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Сообщение от Pavel; 2696561 "
But this is not important, because it is important for the auction to attract owners and force them to sell their stash .

Paul is more important to attract customers through a variety of proposals. Since at some point there may come " exhaustion of the market" - that is, a certain number of customers have already bought the topic of interest , and there is nothing new ...
The proposal could have a "narrow" , even with a good quality ...

Pavel 05.08.2013 08:44

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2700171)
Paul , is more important to attract customers through a variety of proposals. Since at some point there may come " exhaustion of the market" - that is, a certain number of customers have already bought the topic of interest , and there is nothing new ...
The proposal could have a "narrow" , even at high quality ...

This is a mistake . The exhaustion of the market does not happen, the market is unfavorable . I want to say that those who have already bought a can after some time again to sell their preobreteniya because they have a solid auction price . It's well worth it. The concept of "quality" is very conditional , it is a temporary provision . Therefore, it is necessary to give the auction a wide choice, lots more . The public need to choose , freedom of choice , so the major auctions lots high yield in the end.
Turnover will not run out of work market.
I was not taught how to write an art critic , I'm more a reader , so I can be clumsy . Sorry .

Магнолия 05.08.2013 09:28

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2700461)
I was not taught how to write an art critic, I'm more a reader, so I can be clumsy.
Sorry.

It is important to communicate clearly express the idea.
And can be sloppy.

Seriy 05.08.2013 09:35

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Сообщение от Ilona (Сообщение 2696631)
Dear organizers of the auction ! It would be great if you published the results of the tenders on its website. Not just a list of lots sold , and prices .

 Real full results of trades - always a trade secret. Not all the auctions publish a complete catalog with prices , auction results .

Pavel 05.08.2013 11:09

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 2700551)
It is important to communicate clearly express the idea.
And can be sloppy.

I think so, too, did that without Latin, but understandable.
Short and sweet.

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2700571)
Real full results of trades - always a trade secret.
Not all the auctions publish a complete catalog with prices, auction results.

The auction lives on complete trust and prices are part of the advertising.
Hiding valuable sign of danger.

Seriy 05.08.2013 11:25

Pavel, if the item has been sold and the price is high, then yes, is part of the advertising, and if not sold or sold lower than the estimate, it is anti-advertising and hidden.
Christie's Interiore does not publish information on unsold lots, they just disappear from the catalog.


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