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SergeiSK 18.11.2008 21:39

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 111086)
If forgery - do not want to disgrace

Here, in contrast to www.forumuuu.ru no you will not disgrace, and give good advice. Save time, money and nerves:) Well there you hang a picture, but not here. So do not hesitate to show it here.

allexx 18.11.2008 22:05

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 111286)
Here, in contrast to www.forumuuu.ru no you will not disgrace, and give good advice. Save time, money and nerves:) Well there you hang a picture, but not here. So do not hesitate to show it here.

Sergey, this is another picture, believe me: D (information on the Internet spreads rapidly!: P)

However, you do want to get an answer on the merits.

Altim 19.11.2008 13:26

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 111026)
Dear friends. Can you please tell where in Kiev (or Ukraine) can be made of chemical-technological expertise of painting? Contact the Kiev Institute of Restoration, but they impose complex, with a view of their "art critic", they say, you never know whose opinion you "sew" to our technological expertise.

In my case, I, as a first step, it is important comprehensive technological expertise.

And another question: who will advise the expert in Kiev (Ukraine) on Russian painting late 19-early 20 th century, whose opinion you trust?

Thank you!

The names of the major players in the market in Kiev experts:
1. Vakulenko (Russian Museum)
2. Demidchuk-Demchuk (National Museum)
3. Bray (independent he antiquary)
4. Tsytovich (independent)
5. Bychkov (Restoration Center)
6. Romashchenko (independent)
7. Kravchenko (Restoration Center provides an independent view)
8. Gorbachev (independent, specialist on early avant-garde)

Chemical analysis of the case only in the Restoration Center. Chemist two - and Lugina Raspopin. Lugina older and more authoritative.
Opinion of an art you will not hurt it with the "chemistry" is not connected.

Somebody might have forgotten, but only because part of these "forgotten" in commerce painting slightly.

At the regional schools have specialists in the field: zakarpattsev "experts" in Uzhgorod, on odessite (South-Russian school) is the one in Odessa Council asked Lviv has its authorities, etc.

Specializations strict as such no one. Taken for all practical. No generally accepted best. Expensive items should show more, the benefit is relatively inexpensive. Starting, perhaps, one should Vakulenko, because he ðóñêèé Art Museum director and chief judge of several auctions. Depending on his views to proceed.

allexx 19.11.2008 14:27

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 111916)
Opinion of an art you will not hurt it with the "chemistry" is not connected.

Yes, but I need official tehekspertiza yet and all. As a basis for interpretation. And I say, write at once - a fake or original and will make data tehekspertizy. Just a third-party interpretation of technical analysis has not really bothered about me, I would like to start to understand himself. Especially because, as I understood, the details of my expertise to provide no intention - photo there, and so on, just text.

Евгений 19.11.2008 15:44

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 111916)
To begin, perhaps, one should Vakulenko, because he ðóñêèé Art Museum director and chief judge of several auctions.

As it happens, on Yablonska (recently discussed), he's right?

Самвел 19.11.2008 17:13

I was recently sent by e-mail work Otroshchenko S B with all the documents. Download these papers failed. Festival on the red area the size of 126,5 x 264-done. Expert-art VI Tsytovich. The analysis of soil, and the paint layer pattern. Kan.him. Science LN Lugina. Work is in Kiev.

Кирилл Сызранский 19.11.2008 17:24

Tsitovich and Lugini only know the Scientific Examination of conferences and attribution. A very distinguished experts.

SAH 19.11.2008 21:51

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 112176)
Tsitovich and Lugini know only on scientific conferences

I also know how good spetsialistov.imeet meaning obraschatsya.

Altim 19.11.2008 23:14

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 112016)
Yes, but I need official tehekspertiza yet and all. As a basis for interpretation. And I say, write at once - a fake or original and will make data tehekspertizy. Just a third-party interpretation of technical analysis has not really bothered about me, I would like to start to understand himself. Especially because, as I understood, the details of my expertise to provide no intention - photo there, and so on, just text.

In the Restoration Center is a judge - Tatiana Bychko. For all its ambiguity and odious reputation it just does not vparish nothing. Therefore, if it work look to be honest (and your case is such), most likely - not be mistaken. The meaning of her "Levachev" in this case? Either way, you can agree on a single chemical, it is done.

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 112046)
As it happens, on Yablonska (recently discussed), he's right?

It's not right, but in conjuncture. His work, I had not attributed, in Soviet Ukraine, there are alternatives. But if sales of something like (Russian paintings beginning of the century) will be needed expertise - will go to him, because he has a set of options most suitable. Plus there is such a moment - just to be honest look at a job or something shimichit for sale, auction, etc. Other relevant, unfortunately. And not all it could to deny something, we must remember this. Conjunctures, alas.

allexx 19.11.2008 23:31

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 112496)
In the Restoration Center is a judge - Tatiana Bychko. For all its ambiguity and odious reputation it just does not vparish nothing. Therefore, if it work look to be honest (and your case is such), most likely - not be mistaken. The meaning of her "Levachev" in this case? Either way, you can agree on a single chemical, it is done.

Chemistry advise you directly to her? or go directly to those who advised above (in particular, Lungin)? As I understand it, T. Bychko - restorer, art history but provides expertise?


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