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Евгений 15.11.2008 20:33

That's an idiotic statement, the French art critic Olivier Sung: .. "As for Russian art, it stopped at the construction Tatlin, from 30-ies it is not.
 
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Сообщение от qwerty (Сообщение 105506)
If we talk about Russia's contribution to world art, it is unfortunately true.

This position is distinguished qwerty, I personally do not agree with it and keep writing about it.
Cyril Syzransky, it is not in the Soviet painting.

Кирилл Сызранский 15.11.2008 20:55

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 105716)
and it is not in the Soviet painting

And what? I do not understand what they mean.

Eugene, Socialist Realism, in fact, only in Russia is interesting.
Is it not so?

nikola 15.11.2008 22:32

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 105716)
That's an idiotic statement, the French art historian Olivier Sen: .. "As for Russian art, it stopped at the construction Tatlin, from 30-ies it is absent".

The theme for a very serious conversation. Russian art has always been under the influence of various schools and trends of Western culture. And not when did not have deep national roots, as it was in ancient Greece or in the eastern countries - Japan and China. Masterpieces of iconography can be attributed to the Russian culture, but rather will be to the Byzantine. And if we can proudly talk about the influence of Tchaikovsky's music, literature, Dostoevsky, Chekhov, in cultural processes around the world, the masters of this art can be said. It certainly does not prevent us from talking about the skill and spiritual works of Repin and Korovin. But should accept the fact that in Russia are growing birch, olive trees in Greece, in Japan, the celestial beauty of sakura

Самвел 15.11.2008 22:53

What is the difference that is shown, above all as it is made. What bad Lenin and Brodsky? Where will the new names? otduda Okuda appeared old. Just from a powerful layer of the work of artists, as chosen here are fond of saying good things, but real zabrakovyvyli like garbage, so when they rasskroyut this garbage, there would be found and new names and old, but not in other works. The fact is that those who decry this period, just not seen the work of these artists, and before their eyes should dorosti.

sss 15.11.2008 22:57

Tchaikovsky, Dostoevsky, Chekhov ...
nikola, melody of Russian songs - from the Tatar raspevnosti, Russian dumplings - from China, the dolls - from Japan, all this is true, but you forget about Malevich and those who are called "Russian avant-garde."

nikola 15.11.2008 23:25

I tried proud Malevich and other names in Germany, received a reply, "And that Kiev is it is in Russia?" But Kandinsky for the Germans a long time German artist who was educated in another country. That's such a sad story here.

Kazimir Malevich was born February 11, 1878 in Kiev. His father worked at the sugar factories, which were usually built in the wilderness. So in 1890 the family moved to the village Parhomivka, which was located near the Be-lopolya, and then to Volchok. In Parhomivka Casimir graduated five-class agricultural school, and enthusiastically helped the peasants to paint oven, he drew, he considered no worse than the artists in the magazines .....

Glasha 15.11.2008 23:40

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 104496)
Let's not beat the Ukrainians Malevich, the Balts Rothko and Kandinsky from the Germans - all the same all of us, so that they would not think of yourself

...........

SAH 15.11.2008 23:57

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Сообщение от OlgaV (Сообщение 105916)
. But about the painting can and should speak with pride. And while we are silent, others say:

Certainly should gorditssya its artists, many of them and left because that was brewing and then suffered a soc. Realism ...

Самвел 16.11.2008 00:01

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Сообщение от OlgaV (Сообщение 105916)
And then suffered a soc. Realism ...
     

Suddenly only happens .......... all the good that was there could not disappear.

sss 16.11.2008 00:06

nikola, speaking about "our, your, recall the statement B. Nepomnyashiy (and, for some reason agreed with him):" "Russian brains" - it is not a biological concept, and humanitarian. "
... And, certainly, not geographical. 8)


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