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LCR 11.11.2008 10:28

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Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 101716)
dedulya37, excuse me, I did not understand a bit. You mean the colored squares directly on the charts? Or whether they were on the tables, placed under the schedule? But in the names of the tables and indexes as color-coded, the corresponding color curves on the graphs. It seems to be all clear.

Please explain in more detail what you offer.

Adminchik, Grandpa rights. We ought to invent something that did not have to copy the whole list, situated below the graphs - see, as is done on a comparative chart Art Price Index /Dow Johns /US House Market.
Of course, I understand that your graphics are protected against copying, but has also seasoned frosiku blow them:)

dedulya37 11.11.2008 10:39

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Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 101716)
Please explain in more detail what you offer.

Here on this 1) the composite graph it is clear who owns all the curves.
If we can not locate an explanation at the bottom of the table, perhaps place them in symbols or abbreviations at the top of the table on the left, where, as a rule, the place is empty. (Figure 2, some figures 2600)

dedulya37 11.11.2008 10:49

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 101736)
I certainly understand that your graphics are protected against copying, but could also seasoned frosiku blow them
     

It is like an experienced woman instead of "copy right" used "copy left": shy:, as every person has the right to left. :)

fross 11.11.2008 10:59

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Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 101716)
dedulya37, excuse me, I did not understand a bit. You mean the colored squares directly on the charts? Or whether they were on the tables, placed under the schedule? But in the names of the tables and indexes as color-coded, the corresponding color curves on the graphs. It seems to be all clear.

Please explain in more detail what you offer.

Dear Admin, Grandpa is quite right to mention the fact that it is very difficult to identify in the joint schedules ARMIX color lines separate indices, especially close to the color green and dark green. Better right directly on the graphs to give interpretation, but for starters, you can simply change the color.
Thank you for explaining the debugging process. With interest'll see the final version. Well, if you can still realize for each individual artist will be quite remarkable. Well imagine the volume and complexity of this work and wish you luck and patience.

Admin 11.11.2008 12:07

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 101736)
I certainly understand that your graphics are protected against copying, but has also seasoned frosiku blow them

In fact, graphics unprotected. After all, they are freely available, anyone can make a screenshot (snapshot of the screen) and get a copy of the current schedule. And the fact that you can not keep to his schedule as a separate image, due to the fact that the graphics are not the pictures - this is a flash animation (think "run" kursorchik showing the value of the index at a particular point). For the same reason for displaying graphics on a computer requires Adobe Flash Player, otherwise they will not be displayed on the screen and play.

And, again, for the same reason, to give directly to the color chart transcript specific line - impossible. To view the graphs using a special plug-in (program), third-party developers (this is the best thing for today), which does not require you requested opportunity. Thus, what you ask, to implement in existing technology currently can not.

Theoretically, you can change everything, to simplify, to abandon shifty kursorchika, draw simple static pictures, which probably can be output and what you are asking. But, in truth, it does not want. In fact, everyone who watched and enjoyed by our schedules, it is really like graphics in the animated form, in which they exist now.

It seems that the lack of decoding colors directly on the graphs themselves is not so much a big disadvantage, because this transcript is present just below the graphs, tables. I hope you get used to it and stop paying attention to minor inconveniences.

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 101786)
for starters, you can simply change the color

fross, the color chosen is very long and carefully. But because of their 9 (a lot!), Then pick up very different and very different from each other in all combinations of color is unreal. We have done everything they could. Twisted and so, and syak, moved dozens of options. Existing combination - the best of everything that has to pick up.

In the end, you can always remove each curve separately or several curves in any combination and to consider all that interested in details, without unnecessary interference.

fross 13.11.2008 22:54

I have a question on the daily values of the indices:
Art Market Indices
Index Date Value. Chg.
? ARTIMX 11/11 2257.45 0.70%
? ARTIMX-RUS 11/11 2728.53 0.32%

They converted only on the day when they were auction sales and their value takes into account the results of the bidding, right? A change that means? Is it possible for him to judge the success of the auction?

Admin 14.11.2008 10:17

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 104376)
They converted only for the day when they were auction sales and their value takes into account the results of the bidding, right?

Right.

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 104376)
A change that means?

The change means an increase or decrease in the index relative to the previous value. That is a change in the average cost of conventionally averaged works of art in comparison with the value calculated on the results of the previous (past) auctions (the date of the previous /previous auctions listed in brackets, see the complete table). Incidentally, in the accompanying text below the graphs and tables should explain everything.

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 104376)
Is it possible for him to judge the success of the auction?

Yes. This is an index and shows. It is only necessary to look not only some common indexes, but also indexes the individual categories (painting, graphics) and, possibly, and indexes for art direction, if the auction was thematic.

Indices based on the day before yesterday and yesterday's trading update this afternoon.

fross 15.11.2008 00:07

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Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 104666)
Change means the increase or decrease in the index relative to the previous value.

If so, then the index of 11.11 shows the success of trades? Bit strange. Probably not sold lots must also somehow be taken into account and affect change, no?

Admin 15.11.2008 05:06

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 105226)
If so, then the index of 11.11 shows the success of trades? A bit strange.

The indices show that compared with the previous auction (their date is indicated in parentheses) to reduce the average market price did not happen. So there is nothing strange. And, of course, the unsold lots here do not have any way to participate. They do not affect the average market price. So the bidding is quite possible to recognize successful - lots sold for an average price slightly above market average, lower prices not occurred, despite the decline in demand. Well, much that is not sold, it is not sold on the court and there is no.

By the way, is not for sale is not always due to lack of demand, but also because of the fact that the trades are now displayed less hit things. Their owners are afraid that good things do not sell for decent prices, and stick with their masterpieces, waiting for the stabilization of the situation on the market. I must admit that at the moment the market is still governed to a large extent, panic. But on the whole situation is not so terrible, even though sales volumes have all greatly reduced. And, nevertheless, occur even today quite successful bidding for the same Sovkoma, for example. And the recent record-breaking sale of Malevich's also about something said, and Christie's 12-th number is not so bad passed. While it is clear that the price adjustment is and will remain, that is clearly seen in the graphs of indices since 2001. But maybe it is for the better.

Still, to understand the trends should be analyzed not only some recent changes indices, which show natural fluctuations on the results of individual events. We must look for changes over a longer period - at one-year graphs of indices and schedules since 2001.


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