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Maikl 06.11.2008 16:34

wide tread .... pre-Soviet and Soviet era .... it would be quite interesting to all at once ..... about the capitalization of their collections a year ago .... one of the banks bought one of the private collections mainly represented nonkorfomisty ..... for 1 500 000 $ ... about someone that is interesting and who pays for that .... can Transcarpathian artists and promising not deny ... each defines its own risks .... and the time shows guessed chi no .... yes by the way, three of the living Odessa nonkorfomistov have zapadenskie roots

Самвел 06.11.2008 16:41

I also write sometimes incomprehensible, but you outdid me.

Tana 06.11.2008 17:02

Altim: "Yes, and how many of these works was that? 3? 10? 20? Of course, I understand the burning desire of the organizers of the auction to increase the capitalization of its collections Odessa nonconformists by fixing some more or less high prices of these authors. But outside of Odessa is in most of unsaleable things en masse, and they will not, in contrast to the same zakarpattsev. I emphasize - not everything, but mostly . "
and I'm about the same, that the collection sold within Odessa:
Maikl, let's be clear:
-One is Odessa bank bought a Odessa private collections (1 million figure was mentioned, but it does not matter) is largely provided by the Odessa nonconformists ,
-another thing if it was one of Moscow or foreign bank,
just keep in mind if the non-conformists with zapadenskimi roots, because roots zapadenskie it is only because Rakhmanin was born in Volhynia (which is not such a zapadenskaya and has no relation to the Transcarpathian region), as well as an artist, he studied and was formed in Odessa.
link to the topic: http://www.tikva.odessa.ua/newspaper/news/?9834

Maikl 06.11.2008 17:21

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Сообщение от Tana (Сообщение 97976)
Maikl, let's be clear:
-One is Odessa bank bought a Odessa private collections (1 million figure was mentioned, but it does not matter) is largely provided by the Odessa nonconformists ,
-another thing if it was one of Moscow or foreign bank,
just keep in mind if the non-conformists with zapadenskimi roots, because roots zapadenskie it is only because Rakhmanin was born in Volhynia (which is not such a zapadenskaya and has no relation to the Transcarpathian region), as well as an artist, he studied and was formed in Odessa.
link to the topic: http://www.tikva.odessa.ua/newspaper/news/?9834

but what a difference where the money they paid and it is a fact ... for help ... Basanets VL Born m.Brodi Lviv region .... Garden VZ Born s.Veliki Telkovichi Rivne region .... the roots for me ... it means he was born and grew up on the culture and traditions of his homeland .... the fact that May is May and it is nowhere nedevaetsya where we neformirovalis further

Grigory 06.11.2008 17:41

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Сообщение от Maikl (Сообщение 98006)
and what's the difference where the money they paid and it is a fact ... for help ... Basanets VL Born m.Brodi Lviv region .... Garden VZ Born s.Veliki Telkovichi Rivne region .... the roots for me ... it means he was born and grew up on the culture and traditions of his homeland .... the fact that May is May and it is nowhere nedevaetsya where we neformirovalis in the future

Dear Maikl!
Without an interpreter to understand what you write is impossible!
Please respect the rules of Russian language (at least a little)!
Thank you!

Altim 06.11.2008 20:23

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Сообщение от Maikl (Сообщение 97926)
wide tread .... pre-Soviet and Soviet era ....

Since these sections were at the auction. 73 lot in common. So stepped widely, but wryly.
Some names were submitted to the most unclean, probably the work of the Heritage (Malyshev, Todorov, Mezhberg, etc.). It's chic artists! And what work has been at the auction? I have not seen worse.
See earlier auctions Bray - and you'll understand what I'm nostalgic. There was something chopped. Virtually no one random things. There were names - were the work! While Bray and his latest auctions for some reason lowered the criteria in terms of quality of work. But not as much as the others, anyway.
In short, the principle - take it now .. but the city, and the good we do not sell, sell it sometime later and more expensive - in the end result of many of our newly made mountain-auctioneers and gallery owners there, where they supposed to be. In W ... nitsu. And lead from the start. And incidentally, why "lead". Majority and now there just have not realized yet, not looked ...
In general - this is the normal course of events, the art market is good. Painting in the country enough. For our small-scale need only a few market leaders with normal "Corporate Business' brains to" metabolism "between painting and the money was a dynamic and intelligible to all. Leaders will reformat art environment, to establish some "landmarks", the price index and in the end - we all play in one game by the same rules. I think these leaders grow in compost heaps and rotten from the rest. So everything is fine, I guess.

Кирилл Сызранский 06.11.2008 20:51

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 98146)
I think these leaders grow in compost heaps and rotten from the rest ..

But compost is needed ...

Maikl 06.11.2008 20:59

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 98146)
Some names were submitted to the most unclean, probably the work of the Heritage (Malyshev, Todorov, Mezhberg, etc.). It's chic artists!
In short, the principle - take the city .. but now, as we do not sell well,

Information: Work Malysheva Todorova and Mezhberga nekupili.

Altim 06.11.2008 21:06

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Сообщение от Maikl (Сообщение 98216)
Information: Work Malysheva Todorova and Mezhberga nekupili.

I know. And what were the hopes that this someone will buy? :-)
I think it is difficult to argue with the fact that the scheme of the auction should be simple - are sold at auctions expensive high-end work and pull up the entire name. And to scare people with terrible start sketches - it must be very clever, to know that special ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 98186)
However, compost is needed ...

Yes, it is desirable not only to his neck in it to go :-)

Maikl 06.11.2008 21:18

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 98226)
A scare people with the terrible start sketches - it must be very clever, to know that special ...

Well, our people puzhat neispuzhat .....


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