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Евгений 17.10.2008 14:19

Meister, experience (the picture is still not sold), restored it who do not need .. buy, then you can think of (the buyer) what to do with it ..

Meister 17.10.2008 14:32

Eugene, as you adore say, this is not the answer to the question ... Why so seriously diminish the restoration of its value, eh?

Евгений 17.10.2008 14:41

Meister, Master, is asked how and for how much, and how best to sell now? "I expressed my opinion.
Typically fufel (even the 19 th century) has a 30-40%restoration .. Normal collectors prefer to buy unrestored painting.

Кирилл Сызранский 17.10.2008 14:55

Eugene, I think that picture is presented rather interesting not for the collector, but just to have a man priobretatelya.Hochetsya Aivazovsky he bother with the restoration does not want him to give candy and once on the wall ...

Meister 17.10.2008 14:56

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 80616)
As a rule fufel (even the 19 th century) has a 30-40%restoration ..

restoration (ie, flooding the canvas with varnish) is done in order to hide the age of the paint, and wear out so now (I will not go into details), and when the canvas is in very poor condition, and obviously something going on the canvas, it does does not affect positively on its price. not mislead people, the restoration will never affect adversely the value of things. and further confirmed the authenticity of such a wonderful tool, as provenance. If not, then restored, not restored, the confidence a bit ...

Евгений 17.10.2008 15:05

Цитата:

Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 80686)
do not mislead people

This is your opinion, I have another.
Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 80676)
he bother with the restoration does not want him to give candy and once on the wall ...

Not really, especially if you were doing restoration is one thing, but here a lover, he do so, that would be "Mama do not cry."

sss 17.10.2008 16:06

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 80616)
... Normal collectors prefer to buy unrestored painting.

All right. Literate restoration can climb out beyond the thousands of couples, and the time to demand a little more than two days.
If the picture matters not, what matters to the quality of restoration can occur.
Restorer, as a doctor - always with a diploma, but not always heal correctly. In serious collectors have proven their restorers, which can, in their view, trust.
Better not to risk it.

Евгений 17.10.2008 16:44

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 80686)
and do not mislead people, the restoration will never affect adversely the value of

That's the view of Moscow's leading collector of old paintings (the view that listens not only in Russia), Michael Perchenko
Michael Efremovich, what principles you adhere to collecting?

- My personal collection is a very simple principle: I collect things all West European countries XV, XVI and XVII of the first half-century paintings and decorative arts: furniture, lighting fixtures, small items - ivory, silver, tin ... buy only things in the original performance : never buy a painting, where more than five percent of the restoration. Maximum - seven to ten percent, if the author - the greatest artist.http://www.antiq.info/articles_and_studies/6643.html
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Meister, I think a mistake you enter.
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Michael Efremovich Perchenko - a member of the International Confederation of antique and art dealers (Western European art) http://artinvestment.ru/about/icaad/icaad_members/# 08

Сергеич 17.10.2008 21:46

Colleagues, we have strayed from the question. How much it can cost. I, unfortunately, not up to AYVAZOVSKOE, but I was too interesting.

Евгений 17.10.2008 22:09

Sergeyitch, there are an information base on Aivazovsky site, where size, year, price .. can determine the price, what problems?


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