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sergejnowo 02.04.2010 18:36

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Сообщение от lazycat (Сообщение 1015752)
Yes normal Schilder.

yes no question.
Do not insist, but doubt it.
Develop Please my doubts.

Messer 02.04.2010 19:41

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 1015722)
did not also not clear.
In the third photo, with the full increase is clearly seen that layer of paint "as new". Thus under Chipped paint discern little white and tselehenky canvas. Craquelure or any wear and tear does not smell. The question, why duplicate?
Oh sorry, but I have to any work in the first place went up like a remake, and only then by staging persuade himself that this is not so.
So, here I am myself in old age can not work to convince. Maybe the owner will help.
In my eyes, was taken the old job the end of 19 century, the layer of paint stripped and the old, refined canvas imposed latest work in style ....
With pleasure I will take back my words, if it is not so.

Well, believe me you is not easy, but the picture in the family actually more than 60 years. I showed one type of special regime, he said something about the edge, but it was six months ago and I unfortunately do not remember the term. What sort of recovery or something like that. But he was fairly certain that the original.

lazycat 02.04.2010 21:57

sergejnowo

Why should I persuade you? I am in this work all like, but how you - me, in principle, anyway. ;)

sergejnowo 02.04.2010 22:02

Messer, lazycat or Messer=lazycat,
master sir, then did the original ;)

U_Z 03.04.2010 00:47

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Сообщение от lazycat (Сообщение 1015632)
Not quite, I understood: only the edge of the duplicated or canvas entirely?

Oil on canvas with painting dubbed "antique" edges :)??? or canvas with painting dubbed the "antique" canvas. Why? Brad!

Тютчев 03.04.2010 04:56

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I also have the feeling that this picture does not work Schilder. Written as a "dashing". Not so, wrote Schilder. His work seems to be "fluffy" and academically prescription. And this, and in colors and style is different. There's no air, and written as a flat (color patches), the modernist. Working professional, but not that. It seems that the artist wrote another school. Schilder all the same student Shishkin.

I have not seen such works Schilder. If anyone that is looking like, show ...
 

Portfolio Schilder AN:

Messer 03.04.2010 07:10

me in all this only confuses the signature: the name written in full and accurately.

uriart 03.04.2010 07:55

It can be assumed that the work of Schilder.
Obviously it made some changes Restoration.
Given duplicated canvas, so here there is a good bathing the paint layer.
It is obvious and has suffered colors in the hands of ill-restorer.
That's why there are some questions to the authenticity.
And plus the need to do a discount on a photo.
And who wants to buy the work after such inept restorers?

Причал 03.04.2010 08:58

New job, besides on peremelovannom, "pulling" the soil. Glued to the old, probably of no value now :)

Кирилл Сызранский 03.04.2010 09:05

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Сообщение от Messer (Сообщение 1016302)
name written in full and accurately.

Schilder so signed.
The fact of the matter is that the signature is really just perfect: everything is OK, and the letter "e" with the tail up in the name and surname - down ... and the gaps between the letters as necessary and where necessary, and the very proportion of the entire inscription, and the date.

The first time your thing when he saw me right away, she Bialowieza Forest Schilder recalled, and looked carefully-ba, yes there a pond, a boat, so that one pond is filled with paint.
No, do not seem ...
My opinion-on Shildera not like.
And the Crimean things I've seen nothing-there is no such a la nouveau, both yours and I do not think that someone will tell him so-Crimean there or Baku or Volga, or Finnish.


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