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AlexanderG 23.12.2009 14:43

Semen Semenovich

Oi, spasibo! Teper 'perechitaiu s udovol'stviem !:D
Ia ee davno liubil, i svoei dochke chital.

iside 23.12.2009 14:52

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 811152)
What if everything makes the observation that in the film have something to move something, most likely, with the composition is really the problem ...

Seriy, I suspect that there is in the minds of the problem :D "These problems are projected on to a picture and want to correct it.

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich (Сообщение 811192)
And the more you learn, the less you want to change anything

So I say that I have never yet had a wish, to change anything, or like - or not.

And I have a vague suspicion that all the "advisers" - is latent artists.

Семен Семенович 23.12.2009 14:53

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 811182)
What is self-conceit, self-assurance, the lack of modesty, whether it occurs only in the sphere of art, or is this type of people,

The lack of a common culture ...

Вивьен 23.12.2009 15:52

Tips surely not give artists?
I think that they themselves would like to write something, here presented as they would have done, with articulate his thoughts aloud. My grandmother, who can not draw sometimes pulled out a brush with my grandfather and said: "I would have done so!" and began to paint a picture.
But really funny situation.
People walking down the hall, see picture. Discussed. One aunt came up to me and said: "I like the way an artist paints the sea and sky. But the greens he fails. I do not like his bushes.
I smile, nod.
We talked, asked me who I am.
I say: "granddaughter. Author. She, poor, immediately felt uncomfortable :)

Allena 23.12.2009 17:25

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich (Сообщение 811192)
Grigory Oster: Bad advice. Book for naughty children and their parents.

In Oster's a lot of them - such books, and one better than another. "Bad advice" - the first. Certainly the web is.

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich (Сообщение 811092)
But seriously, the exhibition is better not to show fans advise (or all) of work.

iside, at the exhibition, most advisors will be silent and look at the finished thing. Showing not yet exhibited work, as you yourself would ask the viewer - well, as you? Any normal person in this situation simply considers itself obliged to advise something, with the best of intentions, even if it is nothing "criminal" does not see. Most of these pre-boards - invented on the spot, in order to say something, just ask.

Art-ort 23.12.2009 17:37

... "But to him, turned verses
But to the canvas, turned into a smoke
So easy to touch hands
And this temptation so insufferable ...
I do not know the noble katy,
That not all close proximity,
And in the temple in D-minor Toccata,
Not really their badges. "
A. Galich

iside 23.12.2009 17:42

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 811402)
Tips make sure not artists?

Yes, but I suspect that at heart they are still oh what the artists. :rolleyes:[ QUOTE="Allena; 811621"]You like yourself would ask the viewer - well, how you?[/QUOTE]
Allena no longer ask, because the situation is verbatim from the poem, which resulted in Cyril Syzransky :D

Indeed specialist art dealer, who sells paintings for 30-odd years, on the contrary was very brief: It is remarkable what kind of prices, the prices are normal, that's selling these, so these - more difficult, not my profile. And yet - here is professionalism. :cool:

Allena 23.12.2009 17:48

iside, I said, " as a ask "...:)" A poem that I, too, especially in the head it until I read your first post :) "For all its often have to remember - for different reasons.

Do not pay any attention to them :)

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Art-ort, thanks for Galic!

Кирилл Сызранский 23.12.2009 18:52

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 811622)
showing has not yet exhibited the work, as you yourself would ask the viewer - well, as you?

There is a saying: Half of fool does not show.
Most pronounce it, refusing to look otpredlozheny unfinished work, type-I do not understand and give advice silly, sorry ...
I do not like in such cases to give advice.
Smart-Take this hand and have done.

Деко 23.12.2009 18:58

Iside, I strongly advise - do not listen to anyone. And for this, do not ask. If you ask politely - do not listen.
I know the problem, perhaps, as anybody. I am free from the forums harchevalsya time as a designer. The first time I gave advice to friends and relatives - this is where I currently still under construction. Tips about everything - about the color, materials, structures, etc. I think the main reason for all the advice - people asserting themselves. Council - means, I understand. I understand - then I'm a creative person.
Then I began to give advice to workers and supervisors - Ta no, we do not yet robyly (not done). In every one did, but did not so. Here we have a deputy (president, banker, national artist) has done, so we have done differently. He came to the tinting shop with his master, explained what I needed color and why - asked: Guys, you left a lot to the end? And you paid off? - And what is it? - You get fired ...
That's something I've really lucky - my customers never have advised. Especially funny was the latest. Gave them an apartment, say, the kitchen will make the blue. No, not blue, my husband and I lived in a house there, there was a blue front door, aversion forever. I say, I want the blue. Something explained. A client gave up - do whatever you want.
Then do it the same house. I say, stairs make green. No, my husband does not like green. Well, God is with you. Zabarrikodirovali entrance to the stairs on the second floor, spread it surreptitiously into the green. A client arrives, something suspect. Climbed over the top banks - the one you train in green paint. All have paint.
A year later, I confessed - traveling with her husband in the car (they were from another city), discussing. "He probably Specials asked that we do not like it, so then in this color paint. - I like it because in the end ))))".
Want to have fun and earn money - anything anybody did not ask.


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