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03.12.2009 11:03

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Сообщение от Aleks-art (Сообщение 757282)
signature on the painting is different, the picture on your signature ineptly taken out.

 What does' ineptly taken out? "Conclusions" the dog for a walk.
Signed on the proposed sale of the painting, for all the parameters and criteria for comparison, authentic (authentic - of genuine, valid, true).

Aleks-art 03.12.2009 13:56

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Сообщение от yak (Сообщение 757452)
Sorry that connects to your argument, but you compare the work of different periods tvorchestva.Rabota Sergei is clearly the end of 40, from my point of view of authoring, this period is in Kharkov muzee.A about the signature is derived from my point view absurd, sending a signature for comparison with the museum's work

I see that you are quite far from the painting, look at the photos back Soron which there 40th year, we can say 70e.V im.Ayvazovskogo gallery contains over 600 works of N. Barsamov, see Sergei izyavlyaet no desire for a visual opinion, that's all.

Сергей Кит 03.12.2009 14:46

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Сообщение от Aleks-art (Сообщение 758022)
which there 40th year, we can say 70e.V im.Ayvazovskogo gallery contains over 600 works of N. Barsamov, see Sergei izyavlyaet no desire for a visual opinion, this says it all.

Sergei did not izyavlyaet desire because you are not going to buy the work (who wants to do so will have ample opportunity to see it to feel, to show someone sees fit me, so to speak, do not ask for money in advance). Then I do not know who you are, what your goals are and where you can post photos, as well as how to be confirmed that the response came precisely from the gallery? Did not want to be like, but I am compelled to respond to you, otherwise, I understand if you do not respond to any attacks that "this says it all." Judging by your actions in regard to discredit the work and putting up labels, as well as cognition (canvas, if not indeed the end of the 40's, then the maximum 50-s, but not the 60's so precise, not to mention the 70's) the person you enough interesting and of sharing with you attribution, I would have abstained. Believe me, no self-respecting expert, much less self-respecting gallery will hang tags (especially without the owner's request) and make an opinion on the photo! And my potential buyer, if desired, get all the necessary documents really do not worry, so do not ask you to work and leave me alone!

Aleks-art 03.12.2009 15:32

Many of their opinions expressed here are earning points, but I'm a collector of works N. Barsamov, I have a few in my collection, with different periodov.V Unlike many of their words I replied, and was accustomed to speak objectively and not earn bally.Vsego good, his opinion about your work is not menyayu.PsAntikvarny market of Ukraine consists of 50%of the fakes, but this must be fought.

яков 03.12.2009 18:05

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Сообщение от Aleks-art (Сообщение 758022)
I see that you are quite far from the painting, look at the photo back Soron which there 40th year, we can say 70e.V im.Ayvazovskogo gallery contains over 600 works of N. Barsamov, see Sergei did not izyavlyaet desire for a visual opinion, this says it all.

Nehotel join with you in correspondence controversy, especially in the hands of not having the matter in dispute, but hurt "You are quite far from the painting" (quotation). Stash with 35 years of work from the canvas directly, making it clear for you: in the first years of 40-s åòî being "different canvases," 50-e identical to the total weight, 60's, not to mention the 70 th åòî In most its factory, obsolyutno different from this canvas. Извените for vypod, but to judge the ages, the color back side of the subject - at least absurd. I - a man who grew up in artistic and art-environment and feeling and smelling from infancy in no case would not allow himself such bezappelyatsyonnyh statements. I would not trade any etoy picture is not her per se THEREFORE unilaterally ceasing disskusiyu on this issue. From SW. the victim from you, Sergei. Jacob

U_Z 03.12.2009 18:36

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 759142)
Nehotel join with you in correspondence controversy, especially in the hands of not having the matter in dispute, but hurt "You are quite far from the painting" (quotation). Stash with 35 years of work from the canvas directly, making it clear for you: in the first years of 40-s åòî being "different canvases," 50-e identical to the total weight, 60's, not to mention the 70 th åòî In most its factory, obsolyutno different from this canvas. Извените for vypod, but to judge the ages, the color back side of the subject - at least absurd. I am - a man who grew up in artistic and art-environment and feeling and smelling from infancy in no case would not allow himself such bezappelyatsyonnyh statements. I would not trade any etoy picture is not her per se THEREFORE unilaterally ceasing disskusiyu on this issue. From SW. the victim from you, Sergei. James

"No s ... on a Wednesday ...":D. Verses you already begin to write :D

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 757452)
And about the signature is derived from my point of view, absurd, sending a signature for comparison with the museum's work

Show OWL, photo work and indicate OWL, name of the museum (room, wall, name, size).

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 759142)
P SW. the victim from you, Sergei. James

A hto "suffered", specifically?

Сергей Кит 03.12.2009 19:20

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 759212)
A hto "suffered", specifically?

Oh, come on you, right, of course no one of which could not stand, let us stop the empty talk, at least where it concerns individuals. Regarding work, I eat them a little, some, I want to leave, for their own reasons, all to draw conclusions do not have the financial ability, and did not see the point, because I do not know what will catch the fancy way to say to the buyer, and the different people interested in the conclusion of the different organizations that they trust. Just can not imagine how nowadays you can sell that something worthwhile without concluding, I promise you I'm surprised, because selling is not in the gateway and there is a certain kind of responsibility. Therefore I see a sale in such a way, the potential buyer confirms its intention to buy the work, which he liked, but on condition the availability of paper (art-examination or chemical analysis) of a certain organization. That's all, where the catch? A ride on the ads with the intent to stop the sale of counterfeit and hang their personal assessment based on the fact that you have too few works by this artist (stanovishsya whether you are automatically an expert on this?) To at least consider it pointless! Thank you!


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