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iside 19.11.2009 23:55

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fross, both of them, incidentally, one year of birth. And head painted like at the same time, a kind of mysticism.

More pictures from the exhibition. It is like the hall.

Seriy 21.11.2009 09:27

Tell me, and cords that protrude from the picture is so necessary? they have some function?

iside 21.11.2009 11:43

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Treno e montagna (Train and Mountain) 2003, cm 170 x 290
And what kind of technology?

Kirill, found! :) Picture (fastened at the bottom), was written with oil, but he wrote on the sheet. In this case, in Italian it is called telone ferroviario, accurate translation does not know, something in the nature of the railway tarpaulins ...


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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 724112)
tell me, and cords that protrude from the picture is so necessary? they have some function?

Seriy, I honestly do not understand to whom you are applying, but since I am the author of the topic, probably me.

we see written on the giant canvas cloth (in the past - the gun, airplane or tank covers) heads of ancient gods

This phrase from the article Ekaterina Andreeva (I wonder if it is present at the forum, too), the reference to which I said in my previous message.
I do not know whether the ropes are an additional feature, according to the origin of the material, they have been before he began to paint, though perhaps I'm wrong, I'll try to find accurate information.

NATA NOVA 21.11.2009 12:46

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724162)
We can see written on the giant canvas cloth (in the past - the gun, airplane or tank covers) heads of ancient gods

If militaristic canvas paintings, whereas here there is a conceptual point and izogramotnost no longer plays the primary role ..
so that for Luke (about progulivanii drawing lessons), I recall ..
And a colleague what was the visual concept? Enlighten ..

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724162)
By the way, this is not a top price.

(Eyewitnesses reported)
We Gapchinskoy 40x40 Alexander Pushkin sold for 75 000 (s). ... U.S.

iside 21.11.2009 13:21

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 724262)
And his colleagues what was the visual concept? Enlighten ..

NATA NOVA, have a colleague?

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 724262)
For comparison:
(Eyewitnesses reported)
We Gapchinskoy 40x40 Alexander Pushkin sold for 75 000 (s). ... U.S.

Again, I'm not art critic, but I think that Luke and Mrs. Gapchinskoy there are only two common points: both artists and both are living, on this all the parallels end. But still, it is possible that live and create in one hemisphere.

A pro toptsenu, so it was a sale at auction, I even wrote the name of the auction house. Just the one page, where I got the information has not been updated for almost 2 years and I noticed it later when we found more information - here and here

Toptsena to date for the picture below and is 105 400 EU, which is approximately 2 times more than 75 000 USD.

NATA NOVA 21.11.2009 13:30

iside, I had in mind, if the cost of square centimeters take ..
(If very much a commercial approach to practice)
U G. - 46doll.88 cents 1 sq. cm. Luke as a result?


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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724372)
Toptsena to date for the picture below and is 105 400 EU, which is approximately 2 times more than 75 000 USD.

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NATA NOVA, have a colleague?

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iside 21.11.2009 14:05

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iside, I had in mind, if the cost of square centimeters take ..
(If very much a commercial approach to practice)

NATA NOVA, you can treat everything, and the meaning? In economics there is a notion that the importance and value of the information received should be many times greater than the forces and resources, zatarchennye to receive this information, otherwise it is inefficient consumption of resources.


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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 724382)
But Luke is a canvas where a 3x5 meter

277x424 cm

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 724382)
Gapchinskaya something is still an order of magnitude more expensive (or a half? ..) Is obtained and successfully .. .. and without any auctions ..

It is a controversial topic.
First, we can check that Mrs. Gapchinskaya actually sold a painting and for a price? Natalia, you were there and saw?

Even if you have seen with my own eyes that someone came in and bought the presence of witnesses, this does not mean anything, but they can in a conspiracy, by the way, even at auctions such a method is found, to say nothing of the private gallery. ;)

The site, about which I wrote, I can give the link if you want to check that it was written that the pictures Pignatelli from 1995 to 2008, was attended by 155 times at various auctions, logically developing the idea - so much collusion more difficult to arrange than dissolve information on the unit painting sold for 75 thousand? One way or not?

With all due respect to Mrs. Gapchinskoy and its creativity, but this is just my opinion. Even in the topic of her talk about the same: as a boy? is on sale on the secondary market.

NATA NOVA 21.11.2009 15:04

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724562)
First, as can be verified that Mrs. Gapchinskaya actually sold a painting and for a price? Natalia, you were there and saw?

This is the beginning of the second subject Gapchinskoy, which was witnessed buying Yaya-it is the information ..

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Second, even if you have seen with my own eyes, that someone came and bought the presence of witnesses, this does not mean anything, but can they conspired, by the way, even at auctions such a method is found, what can we say about the private gallery.

I've got exactly the same thought flashed ...
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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724562)
Thirdly, on the site, about which I wrote, I can give the link if you want to check that it was written that the pictures Pignatelli from 1995 to 2008, was attended by 155 times at various auctions, logically developing idea - so much collusion organize more difficult than disband the unit information about the painting sold for 75 thousand? Way or not?

1. thanks for the info, 2. I agree completely!

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724562)
With all due respect to Mrs. Gapchinskoy and its creativity, but this is just my opinion. Even in the topic of her talk about the same: as a boy? is on sale on the secondary market.

There, I laid out the proposal and (2 paintings 7000 i14 000) for sale (sold on no info)

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724562)
Please, the question to her. I am not competent in this artist.

Yes it is for her, (of course) Sorry .. I will rather
TE="iside; 724561"] 277x424 cm [/QUOTE]
Is 90 cents sq. see
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iside, dear. I do not deny your information, I am supplementing (for comparison) ...
So many rovoryat about success and all as interesting as how they (successfully) do it? The level of talent special zncheniya has not, as has the level of significance Talal (vezenieya)?
"Do not born talented, a born Talan?

iside 21.11.2009 15:57

Natalia, I am glad that the main items we have a common opinion.

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 724742)
This is the beginning of the second subject Gapchinskoy, which was witnessed buying Yaya-it is the information ..

NATA NOVA, as the saying goes, if the stars are lit, it means that someone has to and if there is already the second (!) Issue of Gapchinskoy, this also means someone has to.
Check how much those of my favorite Rubens. :)
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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 724742)
So much talk about success and all as interesting as how they (successfully) do it? The level of talent does not matter, as has the level of significance Talal (luck)?
"Do not born talented, a born Talan?

How does the talent does not matter? If you have no talent for drawing, even in art school will not take me for instance did not take, and my husband in his seven years of drawing so that I am now so I can not.

But so îôôòîï.

And for Luca Pignatelli - he certainly is talented.

I read about it long ago, now I can not be found, perhaps it was not on the internet, and in some magazine. If I'm not mistaken, it started off with a victory in the competition for young artists, what and where I can find (it is not the specifics of the Italian internet), where he presented his work on the canvas and made furror.
Then he took under his wing Achille Bonito Oliva (Achille Bonito Oliva), and began to promote it.

Luck certainly no one has yet canceled, in each case it has a different interest component.

But the elementary work on the road to success and clout as a personal characteristic, too, no one has repealed.

NATA NOVA 21.11.2009 16:11

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724942)
He presented his work on canvas and made furror.

This to me "created a furor, because once you look through different eyes, and there is a" leap of consciousness "and the semantic and associative load forces and look for another way (deeper) perceive ..
... And just this moment very close to me (to see my exhibition. What I mean.)

 
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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724942)
means that someone has to and if there is already the second (!) Issue of Gapchinskoy, this also means someone has to.

How can I myself did not come in thought about?
(It Yaya doporosit with prejudice :-)
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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 724942)
clout as a personal characteristic, too, no one has repealed.

but this, I think the main .. (and trainees, in my opinion)


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