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Тютчев 15.10.2009 14:38

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Сообщение от Jasmin (Сообщение 646616)
Fufel-pufel in comparison with Bacon. At last we came to them ...: D



In fact, a major world art criticism never belonged to Hearst as to what is worthy of attention. Everything always understood who he was and what a. Just as fast - food can not be high cuisine in principle, just and Hearst can not be considered an artist. His "art" - this is blasphemy! And those who consider it an art or a layman, respectively, fuckers! Who else like more ...

profanity (from a Late profanatio - the desecration of holy places), distortion, perversion of something (eg, ideas, teachings, works of art, etc.); disrespectful attitude towards decent, vulgarisation.

  Ignoramus
  - In Ap. Greece and Rome, man, not dedicated to the mystery of whether or not participating in a religious ceremony. In a figurative sense - not versed in anything man. ...

Loh - slang, the name of the naive, simple-hearted man. Lohami also known fraudsters duped people.

Vladimir 15.10.2009 14:42

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 646726)
For me so - normal. I wanted to write that is not worse Rothko, so frightened, this will ... And it is necessary to Stalin will be reduced.

This cycle (it is not entirely new) do not call "bomb". Widen the dialogue with the beloved Bacon, the introduction of a number of brand imagery with sharks and turtles. By the standards of Hirst's probably a little below expectations. But things are not exactly helpless. If it was an exhibition of young artists in the gallery or in Krokin Aidan, then tore a rave review.

eva777 15.10.2009 14:51

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 646886)
By the standards of Hirst's probably a little below expectations.

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 646886)
If it was an exhibition of young artists in the gallery or in Krokin Aidan, then tore a rave reviews.

Here - here! And add to that there is nothing!

gans 15.10.2009 15:04

But he has not yet signed, simply. :)

Vladimir 15.10.2009 15:06

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 646876)
His "Art" - this is blasphemy! And those who consider it an art or a layman, respectively fuckers!

If you refuse to accept the language of contemporary art (which makes many of the older generation), then all the discussion will be reduced to swearing. Look at the sides, no, look in any Phillips - is at least not boring. Life and energy there for 10 antique Sotheby's.

таша 15.10.2009 15:07

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 646876)
Just as fast - food can not be high cuisine in principle, just and Hearst can not be considered an artist. His "art" - this is blasphemy! And those who consider it an art or a layman, respectively, fuckers! Who else like more ...

Tjutchev, is not that sharp. All is not black, not white.

uriart 15.10.2009 15:09

Tjutchev, called предлагю herstovschinu LOHERSTIZM
This will be its direction.
But not in art!

Тютчев 15.10.2009 15:17

Damien Hirst prescribe in Moscow

July 24, 21:11|Catherine Rogozhnikova
 
Ministry of Culture approved the establishment of Russia's first museum of international modern art on the basis of the NCCA. For the "Moscow Guggenheim" build a new huge building and purchase works of famous international artists.

In Moscow, at the Zoological street, the first museum of modern art, which will gather artists from Russia and foreign countries.

This model of international museum of modern times, has not yet been implemented in Russia, although in all major capitals of such meetings has long existed. The most famous examples: the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) in New York, the Guggenheim Museum in New York and Bilbao, Tate Modern in London, the Pompidou Center in Paris.

NCCA plus

The museum will create based on the National Center for Contemporary Arts (NCCA), which is located in a building at the Zoological already more than four years, and was opened back in 1992. Told GZT.RU artistic director of the center Leonid Bazhanov, the decision to establish a new museum took on Friday, July 24, Board of the Ministry of Culture.

"While this was only a conceptual solution", - stressed Bazhanov. There is still much work - obtaining financing and attracting private investment, the new building, the formation of the collection. However, many items specific solutions already exist.

«This is a hi-tech»

First, it is ready to "pre-" building for the new museum, which completed a workshop of Mikhail Khazanov. Incidentally, this same workshop reconstructed the present building NCCA, a former mill plant Electrical equipment. "This modern architecture, high-tech. The project involves the restoration of old buildings, so that it is synthetic. In my opinion, a successful ", - told Bazhanov.
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The existing building area of functional space - 2 thousand square meters. However, common ownership NCCA more, as some adjacent buildings it owns. Through them, and to widen the Museum Square. The new museum is located at 25 thousand m ².

It should be noted that the Zoological street - quite a narrow and densely sazhena trees, but the artistic director of NCCA reassured that the horizontal museum will grow only at the expense of extra possessions, while the remaining meters will get through the height of the building.

Start posited

Basics of future collections, too, have already been laid. "In the collection of the NCCA has a variety of artists, very good, and there will be new - we are in the process of buying and donating, - said Bazhenov. - This and Damien Hirst and the Chapman Brothers and other artists. In addition, he said, the ministry's board was told that the agency "understands its responsibilities for financing the acquisition of works in the collection" the biggest Russian museums, including the new.

We conceived of the museum, of course, will be foreign partners, said artistic director of NCCA. "We have a longstanding friendship and partnership with various museums, from the Guggenheim to the future Museum of Contemporary Art in Riga, where I was a member of the Expert Council. We have long been friends with the Center Pompidou, - he said. - As soon as we will issue a formal to exist, we will issue and partnerships, personal and friendly, with our colleagues. "

Whose money

To implement this ambitious cultural project will be on public and private money. Told GZT.RU director of the Institute of Contemporary Art (RPNS) Joseph Backstein, who participated in the panel, the Ministry of Culture is ready to finance construction of a new building.

Also "on board representatives of business elite, who expressed willingness to help," said Leonid Bazhanov. He added that the NCCA has also already established connection. "We look forward to their assistance", - he said.

How much money will need to Moscow analogue Pompidou Center, Bazhanov does not undertake to assume. "The more the better, because prices for contemporary art is very high. I'll have to invest in the creation of works ", - said the artistic director of NCCA. It repeated that "today's board - this is not the start of intense collecting activities, but simply a" principled decision ".

do not need to reinvent the bicycle

Joseph Backstein glad that Ministry of Culture "responded to the lively conversations" that such a museum in Russia is necessary. "Modern art is not divisible by the ethnographic principle, of course need an international approach" - he believes. He noted that it was "expensive history", which requires a large "financial incentives".

In addition, the Director RPNS urged the participants to a new project to bring to his discussion of leading experts - the museum staff, curators and so forth, not only Russian but also foreign. "That they consulted those who will be doing it, so as not to reinvent the wheel", - he explained.

"It is important to decide what to collect, what art periods - quite modern or post-war. For example, the post-war art - very expensive, although prices have fallen and because of the crisis ", - noticed Backstein.

He also said that special attention should be paid to building to house the collection. "We must clearly relate the concept of the museum with the architectural project. Typically, the architecture of the building is directly related to its collection ", - emphasized the art. How to meet this criterion already proposed project, Backstein not undertake to assess, since only saw the sketch - it was shown on board.

http://gzt.ru/topnews/culture/251134.html

Of course, you have every right to accuse me of conservatism, but I really do not understand why you need to spend many millions of ordinary taxpayers' money on yet another platform for contemporary art. You can, of course, long and hard to cry about the "necessity" and "relevance," however, as practice shows, these rooms are almost empty out any presentations and performances, which are also, in fact, are places hangouts. There is a wonderful Museum of Contemporary Art. There is a building of GTG on the Crimean shaft. There are lots of cutting-edge galleries. This is urgently needed in the reconstruction of the same Museum of the East, to put together collections of the Pushkin Museum has no money, almost lost "are" suburban estates, not to mention the many museums in the province. I almost keep silence about the fact that nowhere in the country to see the art of pre-Columbian America, not counting the room casts in RSUH created by the efforts umneyshey GG Ershova, and five to ten items in the Pushkin Museum, nothing at all to say that Russia does not take long major international exhibitions, but at least the same Tutankhamun, and the second tour that encompasses the entire world. Except us. Why? No money. It can be seen only, not at all. At that, in fact, no one in particular is not necessary, but that move specific individuals, the money is. In abundance.

Victor Solkin

http://victorsolkin.livejournal.com/205101.html

Seriy 15.10.2009 16:04

IMHO, grandeur and significance of Hirst for art history yet
be evaluated.
Quality of painting? and that, in Warhol was some money painting?

Vladimir 15.10.2009 16:32

The quality of painting (in the sense of "similarity", "care", "vitality smear") - it does not take offense, the term of the previous epoch. In post-modernism and postarte prized "flash" - a splash of energy, an idea, act, gesture, force. The language itself is quite different from the role of plastics not the same.


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