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fross 20.08.2009 22:14

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Previous version of the message contained useful advice Eugenia familiar with the topics on the forum dedicated to creative non-conformists.
Name Leonid Sokov already mentioned several times in different themes, but look at his work can not often. First, I have seen Stalin was in the collection of Ludwig in the Russian Museum. He had been installed in front of windows with white curtains and the monumentally beautiful. Then Lenin and Dzhakometi of Art4.ru - with gay and delicate irony. A look at the name of soaring bear.:), And its recognizable theme with Marilyn.:)

Posav 20.08.2009 22:34

Vladimir, in our turbulent 21 important information and ideas, rather than technical skill. In actualism just have new ideas. Here you can do without a beautiful stroke and TP. That is valued in classical painting. Eden now more expensive than the Arts. You evaluate that work on the criteria of classical painting, but it is not a classical painting. The first work in general collage.

P.S. Maroussia! In our coalition is not forbidden dissent, in your own tail can be seen as walking one behind another, and put down thank you.:)

fross 20.08.2009 22:44

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 561046)
Vladimir, in our turbulent 21 important information and ideas, rather than technical skill. In actualism just have new ideas. Here you can do without a beautiful stroke and TP. That is valued in classical painting. Eden now more expensive than the Arts. You evaluate that work on the criteria of classical painting, but it is not a classical painting. The first work in general collage.

In art, with an equal level of technical skill, and really need more ideas. Already in the 20 century, a beautiful stroke was not enough.
PSNedavno in the mysteries of abstraction were, so there beautiful strokes, and on them you can easily find authors.:)

Черномашенцев Владимир 20.08.2009 23:00

Ideas feeble happened.

Look at the posters, which I just posted on the topic "Present-parody.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...095#post561095

No worse than the posters Bulatov - from my point of view. Ideas clearly stronger than that of artists who paint and can not, and can not think properly. I'm not talking about the fact that posters Bulatov were almost safe in a time when nobody could have predicted the decline of the Soviet era. A less unknown artists-poster artist allowed themselves much more rapidly respond to authority, not being confident in their safety.

I agree that the sculpture of juices - a masterpiece. If you visit the "experimental" Hall GTG - compared to other installations, he looks really wonderful.

PS

I can not help it. I do not like, and Bulatov, Kabakov, Kulik and others unknown to me Conceptual. What sort of ideas - in any advertising agency better idea! What should I do? Factitiously admire, repeating the opinions of "guru"?

fross 20.08.2009 23:24

So you a message about Eugene? He often expresses his attitude to creativity in superlatives. Perhaps it affects the eastern tradition. Here are September 1-2, will celebrate the 2200 anniversary of his native city - Tashkent. What his congratulations. But at the same time I want to ask at the main heroine of the novel by Dina Rubina "On the sunny side of the street" artist Faith Shchahlova a prototype? Very interesting. The city is described wonderfully, and some characters are obviously the real heroes, eg Volkov.

Кирилл Сызранский 20.08.2009 23:51

fross, and Yuri Dombrowski again immortalized the name of the artist Sergei Ivanovich Kalmykov, imprinting it in his famous novel "The Faculty of unnecessary things." They act in Alma-Ata is, incidentally.

Vladimir 20.08.2009 23:58

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 560446)
Sorry layman, but if I see the average poster - that and say that this poster, despite its price tag. Thumbnail number one can easily repeat a designer or illustrator.

I remember, especially in the Guide to the Forum prescribed reference for questions about the significance of Malevich. And there in the discussion remember one brilliant metaphor about the decisive goal on a penalty kick in the World Cup finals. That is to score a goal can be any footballer, but not every football player will reach the final.
Once heard as Volokhov commented on their work. I say that not many of the sixties as they can. For me this is one of the criteria. And in general there is a feeling that Volokhov still very undervalued.

Евгений 21.08.2009 07:19

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 561166)
the heroine of the novel by Dina Rubina "On the sunny side of the street" artist Faith Shchahlova was a prototype?

  Unfortunately, the book I did not chital.Izvestnye artist who worked in Uzbekistan in the period (1930-1970's)-Kovalevskaya ZM, Kashin NV, Koravay EL

fross 21.08.2009 09:27

In an interview with Dina Rubina says:
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Open the secret: who is the prototype of the artist of the Faith "On the sunny side of the street"? - On my site on the Internet often get letters with the question, where you can see the pictures of Faith Shchahlova? And I began to think, I disappoint people, or continue to mystify further. My answer is both. Among my acquaintances there are some brilliant Russian artists, who flourished in the West, having found fame and fortune. But specifically Vera Shcheglova - a fictitious character.
Names did not help, but ran into some very interesting memories of Tashkent. There, with the 17th page memoirs about Alexander Nikolayevich Volkov and his family. http://sukharev.lib.ru/Rodoslovie/3_2.pdf

observer 21.08.2009 10:58

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 561626)
Some of my friends have a few brilliant Russian artists, who flourished in the West, having found fame and wealth.

Intrigued. Maybe someone will call at least a couple of names of these brilliant Russian artist?


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