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Кирилл Сызранский 22.06.2009 16:43

Вложений: 1
Ibid, and at the same time:
Almighty, more modest and cheaper-2 /3 of the lectern and only the crown of the enamel, but Ovchinnikov.
LOT 612
A SILVER-GILT AND CLOISONNÉ ENAMEL ICON OF CHRIST PANTOCRATOR, OVCHINNIKOV, MOSCOW, 1899-1908
12,000-18,000 GBP
Lot Sold. Hammer Price with Buyer's Premium: 15,000 GBP
height: 27cm, 10 5 /8 in.

Сергеич 22.06.2009 16:55

Still receive the same order prices for modern icons and antiques of the same quality. Why?

Кирилл Сызранский 22.06.2009 17:11

Цитата:

Сообщение от Sergeyitch (Сообщение 441486)
of the same quality.

No, not the same.
I think that antique icon analoynogo size (approximately 31H27) in a silver frame entirely in enamels will cost min. from 30-50.
But, it will be or Kazan, and Iver, or the Almighty, or St. Nicholas, ie, the most ubiquitous subjects.
And here you can order what you need.
And the very icon will not written on the blackboard distemper, for example, as implemented in the technique of Rostov BC. ( "painted enamel").

gans 22.06.2009 19:57

The weakest point of these icons is a painting, it is just and lowers the overall level up souvenirs.

Кирилл Сызранский 22.06.2009 20:10

gans, an art in the icon is not the main thing. For the believer. No?

gans 22.06.2009 20:18

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 441896)
gans, powerful painting in the icon is not the main thing. For the believer. No?

For the prayers you can use any icon, it is.
But the believer, just like any other, is able to assess a decent standard of painting. Especially if we consider the collector's interest.

Евгений 22.06.2009 20:20

Вложений: 1
Sergeyitch, a better buy ..
Theodore Virgin, late 19 th century
Salary silver with gilding, chasing, karfan on the field of twisted foliage, overhead haloes and overlaps with the shaded cloisonne enamel, the label wizard: Dmitry Udaltsov, Moscow, 1899-1908
32 x 27 cm (sold for 12t.evr.2007g)

Кирилл Сызранский 22.06.2009 20:27

gans, I am for the purchase of these icons do not preach. :)

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I tried to answer Sergeyitch at the price.

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Цитата:

Сообщение от Sergeyitch (Сообщение 441486)
are still getting the same order prices for modern icons and antiques of the same quality. Why?

I tried to explain the price.
There, in Rostov, too, are not fools, not to set a price ceiling, they know how to ask and for what.

gans 22.06.2009 20:35

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 441926)
gans, I am for the purchase of these icons do not preach. :)

I do not think, just write to all.:)

Сергеич 23.06.2009 11:49

Цитата:

do not put a price on the ceiling, they know how to ask and for what.
In fact of the matter, asking not necessarily receive. In Moscow, these prices are not cheap place - Gazprom's hotel in Vatutinki who know will understand. And the result is that there is that in the primary source of Rostov - the prices are equally high and comparable with the antique.
Tell me something more in the price:
- Skills of the artist
- Labor-intensive technology
- Materials


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